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Jackie Robinson in his 1972

rmrd0000 — Mon, 25 Sep 2017 00:28:31 +0000

In reply to Kap gun vs. Body Slam: helping the kneedy

Jackie Robinson in his 1972 autobiography

"I cannot stand and sing the anthem. I cannot salute the flag. I know that I am a black man in a white world."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/29/sport/colin-kaepernick-flag-protest-has-hi...

Third stanza of Francis Scott key's "Star-Spangle Banner.

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore,

That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion

A home and a Country should leave us no more?

Their blood has wash'd out their foul footstep's pollution.

No refuge could save the hireling and slave

From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,

And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave

O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

One goal of offensive or

ocean-kat — Sun, 24 Sep 2017 20:46:12 +0000

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One goal of offensive or disruptive protests is to provoke the authorities into over reacting and gaining support as the public turns against the government over reaction. Trump did the one thing possible to increase the public support of Kaepernik. Inject himself into the controversy and attack in extreme and vulgar terms.

yup just making more enemies

artappraiser — Sun, 24 Sep 2017 20:29:45 +0000

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yup just making more enemies for himself with his big fat trap: Trump Throws His NFL Buddies Under the Bus @ Politico.com,. Sept. 23. The point: there is no genius at work here stoking his base. Rather, he's working at shrinking it. The recent uptick in approval was from his bipartisan moves, but within days he's back being a two-year old brat.

Even the Grey Lady is

artappraiser — Sun, 24 Sep 2017 20:07:07 +0000

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Even the Grey Lady is headlining "NFL Live" Updates

So I can't imagine what ESPN looks like.

One thing Trump succeeded at: ratings. For "them."

Some have argued, as in the links above, that he was trolling to distract from other problems. I think to think that is fooling oneself that he's that disciplined. What he attacks, he likes attacking, and he's disappointed when he doesn't get approval for it.

II think that just like tweeting knee jerk reactions of the early morning moment makes him feel in control, playing culture wars makes him feel calm but only when he can see it as a WIN. To have nearly everyone in pro. sports unify against him is not a win. It's a yuge loser, yuge. Bigger than Wall St. "Trump = bad" discuss on sports shows ad infinitium, he brought it on himself. It was basically permission, like Dr. Cleveland points out: not duelable,. more like: shunned.

"That’s a total disrespect of

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 24 Sep 2017 17:58:05 +0000

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"That’s a total disrespect of our heritage,” the president told the crowd. “That’s a total disrespect of everything we stand for." - yep, body slamming people into the pavement is a tried-and-true American custom, part of our core beliefs. Attack the police's right to slam people into the pavement with impunity, and you've threatened a core tenet of American belief and behavior - attack on Christmas 2.0 you might say. Even Jesus probably wished he had pavement to slam people into, and America being a Judeo-Christian culture loves the bejeezus out of Jesus.

Blessed are the meek and the weak, cause when it's not football Sunday, they provide most of our entertainment.

Now let's see the white dudes

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 24 Sep 2017 17:53:23 +0000

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Now let's see the white dudes get in on the protest. I can't figure out why so MIA still.

The Hill puts a bunch of

artappraiser — Sun, 24 Sep 2017 17:27:47 +0000

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The Hill puts a bunch of reporters on sports, who'd thunk it:

Pittsburgh Steelers remain in locker room during national anthem

Blog Briefing Room

— 3m 42s ago
Trump comments condemned across NFL

Administration

— 10m 3s ago
Houston Texans owner: Trump’s comments ‘divisive and counterproductive’

Administration

— 31m 31s ago
Chicago Bears chairman: ‘Divisive’ feud with Trump ‘unified our franchise’

News

— 58m 41s ago
Pittsburgh Penguins accept White House invitation

12:17 PM EDT

NFL to re-air prime time unity ad in face of Trump attacks

12:00 PM EDT

How many more enemies can he

artappraiser — Sun, 24 Sep 2017 17:06:32 +0000

In reply to yup he is in over his head,

Edited to add point from the BBC piece.

How many more enemies can he make? Long ago alienated mainstream GOP, the media within hours of inauguration, then Wall St., and now all the big sports organizations. What else?

The BBC article says this

Mr Trump's remarks can be seen as an attempt to appeal to core supporters, BBC North America reporter Anthony Zurcher says.

This is a fight Mr Trump relishes, our reporter adds, because he knows his base will flock to him when he questions the patriotism of wealthy athletes. It may also be a way of deflecting attention after a difficult week, in which:

His latest effort to repeal Obama-era healthcare legislation suffered a potentially fatal blow after Senator John McCain said he could not vote for it

His candidate in Alabama's Republican Senate runoff on Tuesday, Senator Luther Strange, lagged behind former State Supreme Court justice Roy Moore, polls suggested

But I think it's gonna backfire. Yes, some of his fans might want to see wealthy atheletes be patriotic, but that is really reducing the fan base further.

Comes ot mind Chuck and Nancy may have the right idea, go in there and try to take advantage when everyone else can't stand him anymore? I have seen more than one poll analysis that puts the reason for a recent small uptick in approval as him going bi-partisan friendly, the opposite of more attacks on various tribes.

yup he is in over his head,

artappraiser — Sun, 24 Sep 2017 16:41:45 +0000

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yup he is in over his head, not competent to play this particular culture wars game, big Trump fan no likey:

Jacksonville Jaguars' owner Shahid Khan - who donated $1m (£740,000) to the Trump campaign - locked his arms with players in an unusual scene, as owners rarely join players on the pitch.

from BBC News 1 hr. ago

But I actually think this is not going to play out well for the immediate future because he often gets much worse when he doesn't get the reaction he expects from his "fans." It's like trying to fight his way out of a paper bag. If he doesn't realize now that the president doesn't have freedom of speech from his id, like Joe Sixpack does, he never will.

Even friggin' Ray Lewis took

rmrd0000 — Sun, 24 Sep 2017 15:38:45 +0000

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Even friggin' Ray Lewis took a knee at the Baltimore Ravens game in London

http://www.theroot.com/ray-lewis-kneels-for-national-anthem-because-of-c...