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Minor quibble, but of course

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 29 Sep 2017 01:20:25 +0000

In reply to Good points, as usual. Since

Minor quibble, but of course they can have it both ways - we're back to "deficits don't matter" a la Cheney because a Republican, not a Democrat, is in the Wh and they have both houses. Shameless chutzpah is a main tool in their toolkit.

Good points, as usual. Since

CVille Dem — Fri, 29 Sep 2017 01:10:58 +0000

In reply to It hits blacks on various

Good points, as usual. Since the excuse given by every cop who shoots someone running away from them, reaching for the license they were just ordered to produce, holding a stick, a kid with a toy gun, or even someone just walking or sitting; is, "I feared for my life," maybe choosing cops who are actually intelligent and brave, rather than cowardly, is the answer.

The fact that the lame and lawyerly mitigation is ALWAYS given should 1) end it's acceptability in court, and 2) make police departments screen for those who are either paranoid or simply scardycats.

i think these FB players are showing enormous restraint.

One other thing, while I am on this tear: I hear from those on the right that the Clintons, John Kerry, the Kennedys, etc can't possibly care about poor people because they are rich. Now we hear them say, "How dare these filthy rich FB players take a knee? They are rich, so why complain? They are above it all."

Guess what? You can't have it both ways! Yes; the GOP donor class will never go to bat for their voter class. But that is what separates us from them. They can't even understand that. No. They really cannot.

Facebook was used by the

rmrd0000 — Thu, 28 Sep 2017 19:20:38 +0000

In reply to A FACEBOOK FLAMEWAR MAY HAVE JUST LED TO A MAJOR BREAKTHROUGH ON CONFEDERATE MONUMENTS IN GEORGIA

Facebook was used by the Russians who knew that they could stoke the racial hatred in the United States. Blacks were pawns for Putin just as they have been for Russian Communists in the past.

http://www.theroot.com/russia-s-recent-facebook-ads-prove-the-kremlin-ne...

It hits blacks on various

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 28 Sep 2017 18:55:01 +0000

In reply to I just realized what a dumb

It hits blacks on various levels - they're brutalized in the streets, and then when they try to complain a la Rodney King or Ferguson, they're too "violent",, and when they find a peaceful way to protest that can't just be ignored, there's a new version of First Amendment that applies just to them, tied to a new "patriotic" litmus test, much as Jim Crow laws used bizarre literacy tests to retroactively define their voting rights before the more modern practice of gerrymandering and voter repression.

Of course Kap is protesting police brutality, but at heart he probably is protesting too the "sit down and shut up", "aren't you people all on welfare anyway?", "check your rights at the door" (to America) attitudes.

The unironical call to majority black football teams to respect those American traditions that whites hold self-evident, and to proclaim the kneeling as having nothing to do with race, was simply bizarroworld for the trumpteenth time.

Nevertheless, it's even more bizarro that a majority of Americans haven't seen the rampant number of police beatings and killings and just risen up themselves to demand it get toned down, that police learn to calm tense situations and not aggravate them, that police learn to think before firing a taser or a gun, that having a badge is not carte blanche to beat someone with impunity.

If nothing else, the white Australian woman killed in the street by a cop after she called 911 to report a disturbance should make it clear that these fuckers are a menace to everyone, and while I greatly appreciate them doing their job when they do it right, it's not really a situation where a Gentleman's C is acceptable while bodies are lying dead and bruised in the street, and any objection is treated as "obstruction of justice". This kind of "justice" is a mockery of our democracy and the jingoistic flag, anthem and "support the troops" bullshit that's used to defend the indefensable.

Trump also doesn't seem to realize the origins of everything from the British backwards V for "fuck you" taken presumably from Agincourt to the Colonialists "Don't Tread on Me" and other slogans of resistance. All he can think of is his clever "You're Fired", which I guarantee you will be the fuck you heard round the world more than his victory once he goes down. #TakeAKnee. He stoops to conquer. Effing brilliant.

I just realized what a dumb

A Guy Called LULU — Thu, 28 Sep 2017 18:03:22 +0000

In reply to I am favorably impressed by

I just realized what a dumb mistake I made in my last paragraph above, so dumb that it might not have been seen as obviously a mistake. I meant to say:

As a side note: Defending Kaepernick only on the grounds that he has the "right" to speak is avoiding the bigger issue by simply voicing agreement with the 1st Amendment and is not really defending Kaepernick's stand at all.

Along my line of thinking is this from The Nation. Taking a Knee Is Not About Abstract Unity but Racial Justice

I am favorably impressed by

A Guy Called LULU — Wed, 27 Sep 2017 18:07:35 +0000

In reply to A FACEBOOK FLAMEWAR MAY HAVE JUST LED TO A MAJOR BREAKTHROUGH ON CONFEDERATE MONUMENTS IN GEORGIA

I am favorably impressed by LaDawn Jones’ response. I would bicker with the final sentence quoting her. “Let’s stop talking about people kneeling and (Colin) Kaepernick, and talk about the policy issues.” Kaepernick was, after all, kneeling as a way of talking about a very important issue which needs partly to be addressed by policy.

As a side note: Defending Kaepernick only on the grounds that he has the "right" to speak is avoiding the bigger issue by simply voicing agreement with the Second Amendment and is not really defending Kaepernick's stand at all.