dagblog - Comments for "Trump Killing ACA Subsidies for Low Income Americans" http://dagblog.com/link/trump-killing-aca-subsidies-low-income-americans-23680 Comments for "Trump Killing ACA Subsidies for Low Income Americans" en This too: http://dagblog.com/comment/243910#comment-243910 <a id="comment-243910"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/243909#comment-243909">Agree 100%:</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>This too on the general approach, that he often doesn't even intend to do what he does:</p> <p> </p> <div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>It is one of the darker comedies of this administration that Trump keeps getting angry when he hears what the policies he supports will actually do. <a href="https://t.co/3T0nNzsZB5">https://t.co/3T0nNzsZB5</a></p> — Ezra Klein (@ezraklein) <a href="https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/918474810161815553?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 12, 2017</a></blockquote> </div> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Sat, 14 Oct 2017 16:31:56 +0000 artappraiser comment 243910 at http://dagblog.com Agree 100%: http://dagblog.com/comment/243909#comment-243909 <a id="comment-243909"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/trump-killing-aca-subsidies-low-income-americans-23680">Trump Killing ACA Subsidies for Low Income Americans</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Agree 100%:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">This is bad policy. It is bad politics. It will hurt the most vulnerable people in our country. It is governance driven purely by spite. <a href="https://t.co/BdEBM5knTp">https://t.co/BdEBM5knTp</a></p> — Ezra Klein (@ezraklein) <a href="https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/918663435424010241?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 13, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Sat, 14 Oct 2017 16:28:22 +0000 artappraiser comment 243909 at http://dagblog.com Epic legal battles shaping up http://dagblog.com/comment/243892#comment-243892 <a id="comment-243892"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/243889#comment-243889">18 states sue over Trump</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><a href="http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/13/trump-end-obamacare-subsidy-legal-battles-243755">Epic legal battles shaping up over Trump's scrapping of Obamacare subsidies</a></p> <div>By Paul Demko &amp; Rachana Pradhan @ Politico.com, Updated 10/13/2017 05:17 PM EDT</div> <div>My underlining, wish it would go viral so he sees it:</div> <blockquote> <p>President Donald Trump's move to cut off critical Obamacare subsidies will almost surely be tied up in the courts for years as Democratic-led states seek injunctions, while insurers seek to recover payments they say they’re owed.</p> <p>It's impossible to predict whether a judge might order the administration to continue the payments while the lawsuits are heard, but at least some legal experts express doubts.</p> <p>“Forcing an administration to continue making payments when the president believes there is no appropriation, and when Congress believes there’s no appropriation, would be a pretty extreme move by the court — even if it was a temporary measure," said Nicholas Bagley, a professor at the University of Michigan Law School who has written extensively about Obamacare legal issues.</p> <p>The result is that [....]</p> <p>Mike Consedine, CEO of the National Association of Insurance Commissioners, fears insurers may still flee the 2018 markets [....]</p> <p>“The market can only take so many shocks,” said Ceci Connolly, CEO of the Alliance of Community Health Plans. <u>“We had hoped that a business person would have understood the implications to the market, but that seems not to be the case.”</u> [....]</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Sat, 14 Oct 2017 05:45:06 +0000 artappraiser comment 243892 at http://dagblog.com On the politics of this, I http://dagblog.com/comment/243890#comment-243890 <a id="comment-243890"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/trump-killing-aca-subsidies-low-income-americans-23680">Trump Killing ACA Subsidies for Low Income Americans</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>On the politics of this<a href="http://thehill.com/homenews/house/355426-retiring-gop-lawmaker-republicans-now-own-obamacare">, I agree with Dent:</a></p> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <blockquote> <p>Rep. <a class="rollover-people-link" href="http://thehill.com/people/charlie-dent">Charlie Dent</a> (R-Pa.) argued Friday that President Trump was “ill-advised” to end key ObamaCare payments, warning that the GOP now “owns” whatever happens to ObamaCare.</p> <p>“I think the president is ill-advised to take this course of action because … we, the Republican Party, will own this,” Dent, a key House moderate who is retiring from Congress at the end of his term, said on CNN [....]</p> </blockquote> <p>It's just damn stupid at this late date, like most things he's done</p> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div></div></div> Sat, 14 Oct 2017 05:31:56 +0000 artappraiser comment 243890 at http://dagblog.com 18 states sue over Trump http://dagblog.com/comment/243889#comment-243889 <a id="comment-243889"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/trump-killing-aca-subsidies-low-income-americans-23680">Trump Killing ACA Subsidies for Low Income Americans</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><a href="http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/355360-15-states-sue-over-trump-halted-obamacare-payments" title="18 states sue over Trump-halted ObamaCare payments">18 states sue over Trump-halted ObamaCare payments </a></p> <div>By Rachel Roubein @ TheHill.com, 10h ago</div> <div> <blockquote> <p>A new multi-state lawsuit has been announced to stop President Trump from halting key ObamaCare payments to insurers.</p> <p>Eighteen states and Washington, D.C., signed onto the lawsuit filed Friday in federal court in California, according to Sarah Lovenheim, a spokeswoman for California Attorney General <a class="rollover-people-link" href="http://thehill.com/people/xavier-becerra">Xavier Becerra</a> (D).[....]</p> <p>The complaint will seek a temporary restraining order, preliminary injunction and permanent injunction requiring the cost-sharing reduction payments be made [...]</p> </blockquote> </div> </div></div></div> Sat, 14 Oct 2017 05:21:35 +0000 artappraiser comment 243889 at http://dagblog.com “It’s going to hurt everybody http://dagblog.com/comment/243888#comment-243888 <a id="comment-243888"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/trump-killing-aca-subsidies-low-income-americans-23680">Trump Killing ACA Subsidies for Low Income Americans</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><div> <p><a href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/13/16472686/brian-sandoval-aca-trump">“It’s going to hurt everybody”: Nevada’s GOP governor rips Trump over ACA sabotage</a></p> </div> <div>Updated by Jeff Stein @ Vox.com, Oct 13</div> <div> </div> </div></div></div> Sat, 14 Oct 2017 04:50:01 +0000 artappraiser comment 243888 at http://dagblog.com PEOPLE NEED TO PRESSURE THEIR http://dagblog.com/comment/243874#comment-243874 <a id="comment-243874"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/trump-killing-aca-subsidies-low-income-americans-23680">Trump Killing ACA Subsidies for Low Income Americans</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>PEOPLE NEED TO PRESSURE THEIR CONGRESSPERSONS RIGHT NOW. Yes, I meant to yell. Though minions may not end up following all his orders, that doesn't even matter, by throwing a huge amount of uncertainty out there, Trump is truly fucking up the whole health care system, beyond even screwing up health insurance.</p> <p>This is not just about low income subsidies, in the end screwing with the system so much, this is about how all the providers are going to be paid for their work! <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/243864#comment-243864">It's bomb throwing, that's what he's doing</a>, a temper tantrum with people's health care. It is very serious. I heard from a doctor today in a visit, we talked for 15 mins., I heard second hand from an insurance broker yesterday. It is very serious, the whole health care industry is freaking out.</p> <p>This lede to <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/12/us/politics/trump-obamacare-executive-order-health-insurance.html?_r=0">the current NYTimes headline article</a> on what he's been doing says it all:</p> <p><em>A backlash against President Trump — including from fellow Republicans — was brewing as lawmakers voiced concern over how ending the subsidies would affect their constituents. </em></p> <p>The constituents got to speak up! They truly don't know what to do now.</p> <p>My suggestion is to say you want your representatives to support the Lamar Alexander/Patty Murray Obamacare fix and to instruct the president that it is his duty to execute it <em>or else.</em></p> </div></div></div> Fri, 13 Oct 2017 20:52:51 +0000 artappraiser comment 243874 at http://dagblog.com It is amazing that people http://dagblog.com/comment/243865#comment-243865 <a id="comment-243865"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/243863#comment-243863">Republicans applaud shucking</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>It is amazing that people support this crap.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 13 Oct 2017 14:09:05 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 243865 at http://dagblog.com Republicans applaud shucking http://dagblog.com/comment/243863#comment-243863 <a id="comment-243863"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/trump-killing-aca-subsidies-low-income-americans-23680">Trump Killing ACA Subsidies for Low Income Americans</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Republicans applaud shucking the middle class yesterday at the signing, note Mr. Boot Straps Freedumb from the Government spending on your Health Care Rand Paul, from Kentucky....where half the population is on CHIP, Medicare, Medicare, disability or ACA, voting for him makes them feel like part of the GOP club, rich white country club denizens.</p> <p><img alt="" height="512" src="https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/10/13/us/13dc-health/13dc-health-master768-v2.jpg" width="768" /></p> </div></div></div> Fri, 13 Oct 2017 13:48:00 +0000 NCD comment 243863 at http://dagblog.com The subsidies for a family of http://dagblog.com/comment/243862#comment-243862 <a id="comment-243862"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/trump-killing-aca-subsidies-low-income-americans-23680">Trump Killing ACA Subsidies for Low Income Americans</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The subsidies for a family of 4, note a family with an income of $35,000 can get a silver plan for about $100 a month, subsidy of $6,917.:</p> <p> </p> <p><img alt="" height="200" src="https://www.financialsamurai.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/subsidy-family-four.png" width="600" /></p> </div></div></div> Fri, 13 Oct 2017 13:38:09 +0000 NCD comment 243862 at http://dagblog.com