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Ms Flowers made $500k and a

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 31 Oct 2017 01:23:00 +0000

Ms Flowers made $500k and a career off a 1-time shag 15 years before. Considering how people bitch about how much Hillary got paid for speeches, this was a single performance by an unknown to an audience of 1 - good work if you can get it.

PS - "some failed cabaret singer who doesn’t even have much of resume to fall back on" - what exactly is the problem with that summation?

The women who slept with her

barefooted — Tue, 31 Oct 2017 00:50:57 +0000

In reply to You're damn straight. Only

The women who slept with her husband are alive. I consider that to be showing restraint.

Ha! There ya go ... ;-)

I have gone back over my

HSG — Mon, 30 Oct 2017 22:51:04 +0000

In reply to OK! HAl. I won't bother to

I have gone back over my comments and I agree that my response to your criticism here was too flip. You make a legitimate point. I do not blame Hillary Clinton for staying with Bill and I do not believe I ever wrote or suggested that she should have left him. That was and remains her choice. To the extent, however, that I suggested that Hillary Clinton is responsible for Bill's relationship with Monica Lewinsky or other extramarital affairs, I was wrong to have done so. I remain troubled by Hillary's willingness to criticize publicly and to lead what amounted to a smear campaign against Ms. Flowers.

OK! HAl. I won't bother to

CVille Dem — Mon, 30 Oct 2017 21:07:16 +0000

In reply to At no time or place do I

OK! HAl. I won't bother to cut & paste your comments to the contrary.

At no time or place do I

HSG — Mon, 30 Oct 2017 16:48:46 +0000

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At no time or place do I blame Hillary for either Bill's philandering (proven), sexual harassment (alleged), or staying with him (purely personal decision). I blame her only for directing "a special 'defense team' to deal with allegations about 'Bill’s history with the Selective Service System, women claiming to have had affairs with him, and other personal aspects of the Clintons’ lives.'" http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/10/donald-tr...

Thanks for responding to my

CVille Dem — Mon, 30 Oct 2017 12:18:59 +0000

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Thanks for responding to my comment, Stilli. I wondered if Hal would, since i specifically said that his characterization of Hillary's decision was offensive. Your comments are excellent.

You're damn straight. Only

stillidealistic — Mon, 30 Oct 2017 01:49:26 +0000

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You're damn straight. Only the woman who has been cheated on has the right to decide if she stays in the marriage or leaves. Initially, she wanted to believe her husband wasn't the lying, cheating snake he was accused of being. When it turned out to be true, she had a decision to make. She did not make the decision lightly. And she made it while the whole sordid mess played out on the world stage. The women who slept with her husband are alive. I consider that to be showing restraint. No words or threats against them could possibly be bad enough.

To my knowledge, in spite of gazzillions of $$$ spent, no one could prove he ever raped anyone. Did he? I don't know. But barring proof, I'm not going to believe it. Did he behave badly? He cheated on his wife, so of course he did. Did he use his position of authority to coerce women into having sex with him? I'm not sure he did. There are boatloads of women out there who love having sex with powerful men. It's hard to know if he coerced them or they threw themselves at him. Either way, I don't condone his behavior. He put his sexual gratification above his family's well-being. But it's over and done. He has done a LOT of good in the world since then, and I'm going to celebrate that.

Hillary gave him another chance, perhaps more than one, when it seems as though the easier path would have been to dump him. Politically, she would have have been a very sympathetic person. I don't buy the notion she stayed with him for political gain. But, that is NONE OF OUR BUSINESS. She is happy with her decision, their family is intact, and the "family values" crowd should be applauding her for that. But no, she's Hillary Clinton, and she's responsible for every single terrible thing the right can't pin on Obama.

Thanks PP. Loury (Brown Univ

rmrd0000 — Fri, 20 Oct 2017 01:57:27 +0000

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Thanks PP. Loury (Brown Univ) and McWhorter had a similar negative review of “Between the World and Me”. They find Oates too pessimistic. Conservatives love this analysis Blacks need t be optimistic. Loury’s pep-talk is that no one is coming to save you. When Coates tells blacks that they are on their own, he is a pessimisti. When Loury, tells blacks they are on their own, he is being honest. This is modern Conservative thought.

Conservatives love to use the meritocracy argument. People are successful because they work hard. Racism is a thing of the past. They ignore the fact that GW Bush could be an alcoholic until his forties and still get elected President. That don’t want to discuss Trump’s bankruptcies and abuse of women. The guy had to settle a lawsuit for fraud soon after the election. Sarah Palin was able to be a Vice Presidential candidate. Conservatives themselves put less than mediocre people in charge. Meritocracy is a myth.

Presumably you mean this one?

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 19 Oct 2017 23:33:32 +0000

In reply to As Ta-Nehisi Coates points

Presumably you mean this one?

Sorry, no, will not work but

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Oct 2017 22:53:52 +0000

In reply to Could you provide a link?

Sorry, no, will not work but google can. Bloggingheads tv. The comment section has sevral other links to same subject.