dagblog - Comments for "Trump expresses support for health-care subsidy deal days after saying he would end payments" http://dagblog.com/link/trump-expresses-support-health-care-subsidy-deal-days-after-saying-he-would-end-payments-23707 Comments for "Trump expresses support for health-care subsidy deal days after saying he would end payments" en Paul Ryan opposes the deal  http://dagblog.com/comment/244036#comment-244036 <a id="comment-244036"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/244034#comment-244034">Yes I know. But if you get</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Paul Ryan opposes the deal </p> <p><a href="http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/356019-ryan-opposes-obamacare-payments-deal">http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/356019-ryan-opposes-obamacare-payments-deal</a></p> </div></div></div> Wed, 18 Oct 2017 16:48:37 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 244036 at http://dagblog.com Yes I know. But if you get http://dagblog.com/comment/244034#comment-244034 <a id="comment-244034"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/244029#comment-244029">Art... the headlines giveth .</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Yes I know. But if you get him on this meme instead of one of his many other allover the map  memes on health care, you get some of his fans okay with it. That would make for a big enough group to let a lot of past "repeal and replace" promisers in Congress from the last seven years off the hook.</p> <p>This interchange was just a week ago: <a href="http://http://dagblog.com/link/chuck-responds-trump-tweet-broker-deal-democrats-great-health-care-bill-23647">Chuck responds to Trump tweet to broker deal with Democrats for ‘a great’ health-care bill.</a></p> <p>I stand by my suggestion: <a href="http://http://dagblog.com/comment/243874#comment-243874">PEOPLE NEED TO PRESSURE THEIR CONGRESSPERSONS RIGHT NOW.</a></p> <p>I am seeing a situation being setup where repeal and replace promisers can cover their ass by supporting Alexander/Murray. At this point, after all the damage and the threats Obamacare has gone through, that should be the goal of anyone who knew "how complicated it was". Save the recriminations for the future, stabilize now, give cover to enemies where you can, for now. What is the alternative? The alternative is really to let it be sabotaged and years of pain for a lot of people.</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 18 Oct 2017 16:40:02 +0000 artappraiser comment 244034 at http://dagblog.com Art... the headlines giveth . http://dagblog.com/comment/244029#comment-244029 <a id="comment-244029"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/244020#comment-244020">New faux enemy: health</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><strong>Art...</strong> <em><strong>the headlines giveth . . .</strong></em></p> <p>And the small print make take away.</p> <blockquote> <p>"There are no guarantees that Republican leadership would bring such a plan to the floor without significant support from rank-and-file members. Getting a sizable number of co-sponsors will be key to the Murray and Alexander's success. That work has yet to begin." <strong><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/17/politics/health-care-csr-payments-deal-reached/index.html">CNN</a></strong></p> </blockquote> <p> </p> <p>======<br /> ~OGD~</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 18 Oct 2017 05:13:15 +0000 oldenGoldenDecoy comment 244029 at http://dagblog.com I am cautiously optimistic http://dagblog.com/comment/244024#comment-244024 <a id="comment-244024"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/trump-expresses-support-health-care-subsidy-deal-days-after-saying-he-would-end-payments-23707">Trump expresses support for health-care subsidy deal days after saying he would end payments</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I am cautiously optimistic about this deal brokered by Patty Murray and Lamar Alexander. We have reason to hope millions of people won't face either huge increases in out-of-pocket health insurance premiums or going uninsured.</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 18 Oct 2017 00:14:42 +0000 HSG comment 244024 at http://dagblog.com New faux enemy: health http://dagblog.com/comment/244020#comment-244020 <a id="comment-244020"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/trump-expresses-support-health-care-subsidy-deal-days-after-saying-he-would-end-payments-23707">Trump expresses support for health-care subsidy deal days after saying he would end payments</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>New faux enemy: health insurance cos.:</p> <p><a class="related " href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/10/17/trumps-cynically-bad-justification-for-his-controversial-obamacare-move/">The Fix: Trump’s cynically bad justification for his controversial Obamacare move</a></p> <p>Alt. title: <em>Trump doesn’t seem to have any idea what he’s doing on health care</em></p> <p>Analysis by Aaron Blake @ WashingtonPost.com, 2:57 pm</p> <blockquote> <p>President Trump has decided upon a justification for his controversial decision to <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/10/16/steve-bannon-just-totally-contradicted-trumps-claim-about-canceling-obamacare-payments/?utm_term=.3826d59faa3b">cancel Obamacare payments to insurers covering policies for low-income Americans</a>: The insurance companies are getting rich off this stuff.</p> <p>As is often the case with Trump, his argument seems plausible on its face but, upon further examination, quickly falls apart. And not only that, but Trump is now lending support to <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/key-senators-reach-bipartisan-health-care-subsidy-deal-and-trump-expresses-support/2017/10/17/72be5b04-b355-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html?utm_term=.c43f2f395941&amp;wpisrc=al_alert-COMBO-politics%252Bnation&amp;wpmk=1">a deal that would actually <em>restore</em> the payments</a> that he says are lining insurance company pockets.</p> <p>During an appearance Tuesday morning on Brian Kilmeade's Fox News Radio show, Trump pointed to soaring stock prices for the insurance companies, even bringing along visuals.</p> <p>"Look at these insurance companies. This is since Obamacare started. Anthem, big company, 270 percent increase. 270 percent. And that’s since ACA, that’s Obamacare," Trump said. "So since Obamacare, Humana, 420 percent increase. Aetna, 470 percent increase. Cigna, 480 percent increase." [....]</p> </blockquote> <p>Single- payer-promoting Dems should grab this one while it's hot, make him sign something? <img alt="enlightened" height="23" src="http://cdn.ckeditor.com/4.5.6/full-all/plugins/smiley/images/lightbulb.png" title="enlightened" width="23" /></p> </div></div></div> Tue, 17 Oct 2017 22:09:38 +0000 artappraiser comment 244020 at http://dagblog.com