dagblog - Comments for "Without Saying ‘Trump,’ Bush and Obama Deliver Implicit Rebukes" http://dagblog.com/link/without-saying-trump-bush-and-obama-deliver-implicit-rebukes-23716 Comments for "Without Saying ‘Trump,’ Bush and Obama Deliver Implicit Rebukes" en 'Our democracy is at stake,' http://dagblog.com/comment/244095#comment-244095 <a id="comment-244095"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/without-saying-trump-bush-and-obama-deliver-implicit-rebukes-23716">Without Saying ‘Trump,’ Bush and Obama Deliver Implicit Rebukes</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><a href="http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/19/obama-virginia-campaign-trail-ralph-northam-trump-243976">'Our democracy is at stake,' Obama says on Virginia campaign trail</a></p> <p><em>Stumping for Ralph Northam in the governor's race, the former president rails against 'the politics of fear.'</em></p> <div>By Edward-Isaac Dovere @ Politico.com, 10/19/2017 10:22 PM EDT</div> <div> <blockquote> <p>RICHMOND, Va. — “It is time.”</p> <p>Ralph Northam, the Democratic candidate for governor, finished his own speech, said those words, and the crowd of more than 7,000 erupted. Then U2’s “City of Blinding Lights” from all the way back in the 2008 campaign started playing, and Barack Obama made his return to the campaign trail here Thursday night.</p> <p>Fresh from New Jersey after making an appearance for the Democratic gubernatorial candidate there, Phil Murphy, his own former ambassador to Germany, Obama uncorked. He argued that this year’s elections are an existential moment that should — if Democrats do what he’s kept telling them to do, without much success — vote — be the start of reasserting an American politics and society that turns away from what’s embodied by President Donald Trump [....]</p> </blockquote> <p>and by the same reporter!</p> <p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/10/19/george-w-bushs-unmistakable-takedown-of-trumpism-and-trump/?tid=pm_politics_pop&amp;utm_term=.106d00c2e491">George W. Bush slams Trumpism, without mentioning president by name</a></p> <p><em>'Bigotry seems emboldened. Our politics seems more vulnerable to conspiracy theories and outright fabrication,' Bush declared.</em></p> <div>Updated 10/19/2017 06:04 PM EDT</div> <p> </p> </div> </div></div></div> Fri, 20 Oct 2017 03:36:56 +0000 artappraiser comment 244095 at http://dagblog.com George W. Bush’s unmistakable http://dagblog.com/comment/244094#comment-244094 <a id="comment-244094"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/without-saying-trump-bush-and-obama-deliver-implicit-rebukes-23716">Without Saying ‘Trump,’ Bush and Obama Deliver Implicit Rebukes</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/10/19/george-w-bushs-unmistakable-takedown-of-trumpism-and-trump/?tid=pm_politics_pop&amp;utm_term=.106d00c2e491">George W. Bush’s unmistakable takedown of Trumpism — and Trump</a></p> <p>Analysis by Aaron Blake @ WashingtonPost.com, Oct. 19</p> <blockquote> <p>[....] Speaking at a George W. Bush Institute event in New York, Bush didn't use Trump's name, but his target became clearer as the speech progressed. Here's a sampling:</p> <ul><li>“Bigotry seems emboldened. Our politics seems more vulnerable to conspiracy theories and outright fabrication.”</li> <li>“We’ve seen nationalism distorted into nativism.”</li> <li>“We’ve seen our discourse degraded by casual cruelty. . . . Argument turns too easily into animosity.”</li> <li>“It means that bigotry and white supremacy in any form is blasphemy against the American creed, and it means the very identity of our nation depends on passing along civic ideals.”</li> <li>“Bullying and prejudice in our public life … provides permission for cruelty and bigotry.”</li> <li>“The only way to pass along civic values is to live up to them.”</li> </ul><p>Any one of these quotes in isolation could be dismissed as highflying rhetoric aimed at the general coarsening of our political culture — or the rise of forms of nationalism and extremism that clearly exist outside the Oval Office.</p> <p>But almost each of these quotes has some connection to Trump [...]</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Fri, 20 Oct 2017 03:30:38 +0000 artappraiser comment 244094 at http://dagblog.com I liked the little smirk http://dagblog.com/comment/244093#comment-244093 <a id="comment-244093"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/244091#comment-244091">Wow. I&#039;m not going to talk</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I liked the little smirk after he said the line at the end of the video and got rousing applause.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 20 Oct 2017 03:21:36 +0000 artappraiser comment 244093 at http://dagblog.com Wow. I'm not going to talk http://dagblog.com/comment/244091#comment-244091 <a id="comment-244091"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/244088#comment-244088">Badly delivered as always,</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Wow. I'm not going to talk about what the speech said or the how well Bush delivered it. What is shocking to me when compared to a Trump speech is the level of complexity in the ideas expressed and the level of vocabulary. After listening to several speeches Trump read that others wrote for him I don't think Trump could convincingly read that speech because he wouldn't understand the ideas. He would be mispronouncing and stumbling over words that aren't a part of his vocabulary.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 20 Oct 2017 03:16:59 +0000 ocean-kat comment 244091 at http://dagblog.com Jennifer Rubin of WaPo and http://dagblog.com/comment/244089#comment-244089 <a id="comment-244089"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/without-saying-trump-bush-and-obama-deliver-implicit-rebukes-23716">Without Saying ‘Trump,’ Bush and Obama Deliver Implicit Rebukes</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/10/19/the-gop-is-the-party-of-roy-moore/?utm_term=.7a0594da8425">Jennifer Rubin</a> of WaPo and Charlie Sykes author of “<a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N7HQD16/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&amp;btkr=1">How the Right Lost It’s Mind</a>” are trying to talk sense to Trump supporters. No Liberal is going to be able to convince Trump supporters that they made an error. As Rubin notes, the GOP is now the party of Roy Moore.</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 20 Oct 2017 03:03:18 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 244089 at http://dagblog.com Badly delivered as always, http://dagblog.com/comment/244088#comment-244088 <a id="comment-244088"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/without-saying-trump-bush-and-obama-deliver-implicit-rebukes-23716">Without Saying ‘Trump,’ Bush and Obama Deliver Implicit Rebukes</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>A snippet, badly delivered as always, but with some pretty incredible language:</p> <div class="media_embed" height="321px" width="480px"><iframe allowfullscreen="true" frameborder="0" height="321px" id="nyt_video_player" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" scrolling="no" src="https://static01.nyt.com/video/players/offsite/index.html?videoId=100000005506230" title="New York Times Video - Embed Player" width="480px"></iframe></div> <p><em>Former President George W. Bush defended free trade and railed against populist rhetoric in an implicit criticism of President Trump.</em> By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS. Photo by Seth Wenig/Associated Press</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 20 Oct 2017 02:49:32 +0000 artappraiser comment 244088 at http://dagblog.com