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Verhoeven has always been

jollyroger — Wed, 25 Oct 2017 18:10:07 +0000

In reply to I'd forgotten the class room

Verhoeven has always been reliable...

It depends on how one defines

ocean-kat — Sun, 22 Oct 2017 20:24:45 +0000

In reply to My grandpa was a marine and I

It depends on how one defines superior. Marines often define superior in part as esprit de corps which was one of the reasons the other services looked down on them, at least in Japan. If a group of army guys were out in a japanese club and one dude got drunk and stupid we'd try to rein him in or get him home. If we couldn't stop him and the fool was determined to act like an ass or start a fight we'd abandon him to his stupidity. The knowledge that he was on his own was often enough to get him to back down. The marines would stand and fight with their comrade no matter how stupid. Knowing that his buddies had his back made the fools act more stupidly provocative.

In my case a lot of the

ocean-kat — Sun, 22 Oct 2017 19:02:15 +0000

In reply to Wow I never heard that about

In my case a lot of the hatred of marines came from being stationed in Japan. As soon as the 7th Fleet came to Japan the word was out, don't go to Tokyo or Yokohama this week because the cities will be crawling with marines acting stupid, insulting the natives, and starting fights.

With references to several

Grunt — Sun, 22 Oct 2017 17:39:57 +0000

In reply to My grandpa was a marine and I

With references to several comments:

'But fetishizing military service is the absolute worst.' Absolutely.

Marines have a powerful recruitment technique in addition to the idea suggested of making it a pragmatic choice to some branch of the military. They have convinced little guys and status deficient guys that they can prove that they are tough guys by becoming a Marine. That is way different than being smart guys because they have also proven that they are willing to be mindless murderous tools regardless the justification. They will have lifted themselves in their own eyes from herd animals to pack animals. Wolves, by evolved nature are pack animals. So are lap dogs. So are Humans. So are Hyenas. Some lap dogs and some percentage of humans have become civilized but both still have a prehistoric nature that can be encouraged to bad affect.

Anyone who might think they speak knowledgeably of modern Army culture based on personal experience before the draft was abolished is speaking from ignorance. While the draft was in place Marines and "RA's", regular Army, were considered stupid by all draftees and ultimately by many who had joined primarily because of the 'fact' that they joined but also because a fair percentage actually were a little dim.

Love that joke, though. I'd

Michael Maiello — Sun, 22 Oct 2017 16:04:38 +0000

In reply to Oh, yes. The joke is that

Love that joke, though. I'd add "a guy training for a marathon" and "a guy with no TV" to it.

My grandpa was a marine and I

Michael Maiello — Sun, 22 Oct 2017 16:02:42 +0000

In reply to When I was in the army none

My grandpa was a marine and I always thought they held themselves as superior but were angry at being a division of the Navy.

Oh, yes. The joke is that

CVille Dem — Sun, 22 Oct 2017 00:02:23 +0000

In reply to Wow I never heard that about

Oh, yes. The joke is that any time you meet a marine (never a FORMER marine, because once a marine, always yada yada yada), the first words out of their mouths are, "When I was in the marine corps....".

My husband was an army helicopter pilot, and he loves to mention that when his Robin Hood Group in Vietnam had worn out a helicopter they went to the marines. I've had those same words (when I was in the marine corps) said to me by a NYC taxi driver, an ice cream scooper-server, a doctor, and s many more. Army, Navy, and AirForce all think that is hilarious and pathetic.

Ever heard the joke:

An atheist, a marine, and a vegan went into a bar...and everyone knew because they told everyone before they ordered a drink.

...Actually the joke was funnier, but I told it wrong, lol

Wow I never heard that about

artappraiser — Sat, 21 Oct 2017 21:02:53 +0000

In reply to When I was in the army none

Wow I never heard that about what the other forces thought about the Marines, thanks for sharing that secret! I thought it was generally the Army that were looked down upon as the lowly beasts of burden at the bottom. How come it's not in the movies and other pop culture? (Not to drag in another thread here, nope.) Doesn't matter if that's changed since you were in, or was different before you, I'm just amazed to hear it reported that it ever happened at all. I fell for pro-Marine spin infiltrating pop culture?

When I was in the army none

ocean-kat — Sat, 21 Oct 2017 20:38:31 +0000

In reply to The Starship Troopers Phase of Trumpism

When I was in the army none of us thought we were better than the civilians. But everyone in the Air Force, Army, and Navy thought they were better than the Marines. As for what the Marines thought, no one knew because no one paid any attention to what those ignorant dumb ass jarheads said.

I'd forgotten the class room

Michael Maiello — Fri, 20 Oct 2017 15:46:00 +0000

In reply to Nice allusion, but a little

I'd forgotten the classroom scene!

But I remember the shower sc--