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The IPCC, International Panel

Peter — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 15:03:58 +0000

In reply to IPCC :

The IPCC, International Panel on Climate Change, also stated clearly in their report on sea level rise that tha average rate of SLR was unchanged throughout the 20th century. The information you provided shows how cherry-picking, manipulating data of anomalous events over a short time span can be used for Warmer propaganda. Also the most accurate metric for long term measurements of SLR would be tidal guages widely used for over a century. I resd a report that stated that measurements show that there has been no SLR for the last three years but I won't use that odd data to claim that SLR has stopped. SLR will probably return to its slow natural rate and human civilization will deal with it just as the Dutch have for the last 1000 years.

IPCC :

NCD — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 04:17:06 +0000

In reply to I appreciate that you reject

IPCC :

Global sea level rose by about 120 m during the several millennia that followed the end of the last ice age (approximately 21,000 years ago), and stabilised between 3,000 and 2,000 years ago. Sea level indicators suggest that global sea level did not change significantly from then until the late 19th century. The instrumental record of modern sea level change shows evidence for onset of sea level rise during the 19th century. Estimates for the 20th century show that global average sea level rose at a rate of about 1.7 mm yr–1.

Satellite observations available since the early 1990s provide more accurate sea level data with nearly global coverage. This decade-long satellite altimetry data set shows that since 1993, sea level has been rising at a rate of around 3 mm yr–1, significantly higher than the average during the previous half century.

I appreciate that you reject

Peter — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 03:55:54 +0000

In reply to We disagree on Trump v.

I appreciate that you reject the ends justify the means attitude that prevails among the snowflakes and many people with real power in our society. I don't expect to change anyone's mind but do enjoy seeing someone take an ethical stand however small and short lived. Too many liberals lack those qualities and even seem to celebrate that fact. I'm surprises someone as politically informed as you missed the rollout of Obama's plan to move the TPP through congress. just before the election, planning for its passing soon after the election but before the Red Queen was installed in power. I recall that much of the congressional leadership had agreed to help with the dealmaking to insure passage of Obama's final presidential legacy. Within a week of Trump's unexpected victory a message was sent to Obama by these leaders saying they wouldn't be able to perform this task because a real populist who would keep his campaign promises would kill the bill with a veto. Trump made certain the bill couldn't even be voted on by killing the negotiations with his executive order. The CAGW alarmism is another example of long term conditioning of people who too easily believe politicians have their best interests as their priorities. The real story is much like an old fish which is roting from the head. The corruption and manipulation of data has been documented but this agenda has also become like a religion with often ignorant true believers and anyone who is skeptical branded as heretics. The IPCC finally admitted that there was little or no global warming for at least the first fifteen yeare of this century and that there has been no increase in the rate of sea-level rise in over 100 years. These are real fact based data while the alarmist predictions have all been wrong.

We disagree on Trump v.

HSG — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 01:28:11 +0000

In reply to This is the second time I

We disagree on Trump v. Clinton Peter. As bad as she is, he is worse. Yes, it's good we're not in the TPP but the deal had been justly vilified by Election Day to the point that I doubt she would have signed off on it if (a) she had won and (b) it had somehow gotten through Congress.

Withdrawing from Paris was absolutely the wrong thing to do. Yes the Democrats haven't been great on AGW but we need to be working internationally on solutions not sticking our heads in the sand.

All that said, I appreciate your willingness to challenge the Democratic-establishment collective wisdom. That takes guts and has real value. I also thank you for pointing out that I'm not the one being taken for a ride. Indeed, poor, struggling, working-class, and middle-class Americans who reflexively vote for neolib Dems like Hillary Clinton in primaries, as opposed to populist progressives like Bernie, are tragically the ones being fleeced.

I don't understand the

moat — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 00:54:45 +0000

In reply to This is the second time I

I don't understand the "sleazy innuendo" part of your comment. Did I not accurately describe your view of what criticism of Trump's is really about?
You even repeat the message in case anybody wasn't clear on your meaning.

Says the master if Newspeak,

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 00:28:00 +0000

In reply to This is the second time I

Says the master of Newspeak, our own mad hatter. Oh yrs, Trump the "straight talker" - where I come from we call it bald-faced lying, and the prosecutors seemingly agree.

It still remains that your

rmrd0000 — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 00:27:02 +0000

In reply to This is the second time I

It still remains that your guy is a white supremacist.

This is the second time I

Peter — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 00:22:01 +0000

In reply to HSG, I would think twice

This is the second time I have seen sleazy innuendo used here today and I wonder if it could be viewed as thugish behavior or is it just trite. Hal is a big boy and no one is going to take him for a ride, which was another slur aimed at him. I think I'm the only person here to have complimented Hal on being able to resist the cult of personality around the Red Queen and the groupthink it relies on. Not many liberals could resist but enough did to bring a straight talking conservative to the WH. That straight talk frightenes the snowflakes because they can't imagine they wouldn't contimue to enjoy sweet sounding Newspeak delivered by adored celebrities while everyone was prodded into the NWO.

HSG, I would think twice

moat — Wed, 01 Nov 2017 23:15:54 +0000

In reply to I don't say you're wrong

HSG, I would think twice before getting into Peter's van.
Whatever agreement you might find with his critique of the status quo, Peter is busy painting Trump in colors that dismiss outrage at his thuggish behavior as a symptom of a compulsion to support Hillary Clinton no matter what happens to who. Peter's board game doesn't permit any other moves.
As much as you despise Hillary Clinton, I trust that you don't think that the disgust people feel when listening to Trump has anything to do with her.

Oh yeah, because killing TPP

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 01 Nov 2017 17:42:15 +0000

In reply to Hal, i think the worst

Oh yeah, because killing TPP really stopped American foreign trade. Alright, enough silliness.