dagblog - Comments for "Donna Brazile's "Inside Hillary Clinton's Secret Takeover of the DNC" "

From NBC:

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 03 Nov 2017 22:54:18 +0000

In reply to Just a follow up / apologia.

From NBC:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/memo-reveals-details-hillary-...

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/TODAY/z_Creative/DNCMemo%20(002).pdf

On the plus side, the

Michael Wolraich — Fri, 03 Nov 2017 21:17:56 +0000

In reply to I just appreciate knowing

On the plus side, the brouhaha has made it abundantly clear that the DNC is fubar. I hope it prompts some reform.

I just appreciate knowing

artappraiser — Fri, 03 Nov 2017 19:50:58 +0000

In reply to Just a follow up / apologia.

I just appreciate knowing that, cause I was second guessing my own analysis of the situation based on yours. Whatever, it caused a ruckus, water over the damn, especially after Warren piped up. There's gonna be fighting and one way or another, and something will come of it and we'll all see....

Just a follow up / apologia.

Michael Wolraich — Fri, 03 Nov 2017 19:24:49 +0000

In reply to Donna Brazile's "Inside Hillary Clinton's Secret Takeover of the DNC"

Just a follow up / apologia. I've read a number of criticisms of Brazile's piece since yesterday. I remain concerned about this issue, but I also acknowledge that I put too much faith in Brazile's analysis of what happened. The reality seems to be a lot murkier than the way she presented it.

Brazile is trying to sell a

rmrd0000 — Fri, 03 Nov 2017 13:26:39 +0000

In reply to Joy Reid brings some reality

Brazile is trying to sell a book. Joy Reid focuses on reality. Hopefully, Elizabeth Warren will rethink her position on “rigging”.

Joy Reid brings some reality

CVille Dem — Fri, 03 Nov 2017 12:28:00 +0000

In reply to Donna Brazile's "Inside Hillary Clinton's Secret Takeover of the DNC"

Joy Reid brings some reality to this:

https://mobile.twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/926329971588714496

In other words, she refutes the Brazille article, line by line.

A small note - that’s actually a big one - on the subject of “rigging...”
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) November 3, 2017

Excellent analysis!

NCD — Fri, 03 Nov 2017 03:47:50 +0000

In reply to OK, Hal. Don't respond. But

Excellent analysis!

And....OMG, Bernie's guy loses in the VA primary, so Bernie and the Bro's furtively hope the race baiting Republican wins...!

Because quoting Hal, "The worldviews of the pro-Clinton and pro-Sanders supporters are simply incompatible".......and the Bernie world view is "my way or the highway to hell with the Republicans." Sabotage the opposition Party is the scheme.

As Driftglass opined on Purity Seekers:

Once purity itself becomes all you care about -- once it becomes a distillery race to see who can get to 100% -- the chicken farmers are never far behind:

The main Islamist group in Algeria, the GIA, ended up being led by a Mr. Zouabri, a chicken farmer, who killed everyone who disagreed with him. He issued a final communiqué, declaring that the whole of Algerian society should be killed, with the exception of his tiny remaining band of Islamists. They were the only ones who understood the truth.

Times change and heroes flare

A Guy Called LULU — Fri, 03 Nov 2017 03:33:29 +0000

In reply to OK, Hal. Don't respond. But

Times change and heroes flare and fade. I remember when Sanders won in Vermont as an Independent and then declared he would caucus with the Democrats. He was a hero here at dag. Then he fought hard for a better health care bill and his star rose further. He carried out a mini-filibuster over health care just before the crucial vote when lives were in the balance and was nearly canonized. I do not recall a single disparaging voice turned against him. Well, except a bit from me and there well may have been at least some other slight caveats suggested to his shining image. Certainly not much though and there was no such thing as a Berniebro until he carried his same platform into a race against Hillary. Oh well, the wind blows one way and then it sucks the other way. That's politics.

Yes the Democratic Party will

tmccarthy0 — Fri, 03 Nov 2017 03:06:36 +0000

In reply to Let me substitute a few words

Yes the Democratic Party will havre to do this, and they should get on with it right away. The goal should not be, deny and do nothing. The goal should be growing a new loyal base of voters, those young people are getting older and in order not to let the cynical “both sides suck that’s why I don’t vote” spread through yet another generation of American voters.

OK, Hal. Don't respond. But

CVille Dem — Fri, 03 Nov 2017 02:20:36 +0000

In reply to Brazile's piece is

OK, Hal. Don't respond. But your comments are Bull Shit. Since you are not responding I won't bother to explain, but seriously....smelling like a rose? I feel as though trump (just as sanders) is hiding things with his taxes. I think trump has no better understanding of policies than sanders does; I think sanders was completely dishonest when he ran as a Democrat -- the same as trump running as a republican. Sanders pretended he was a Dem and then whined when that very same party stuck to rules that preceded his fake candidacy, and didn't consider him equally valuable as someone who had worked for Democratic causes since forever. That isn't the same as screwing him over. His refusal to give out his tax forms has no relevance in your mind, but it actually does in mine and many others. Your excuses about that are the same as Kelly Conway's about trump: "They voted for him anyway." I don't think that should be the new standard. So now it is trump and sanders...what a great new low.

The latest thing that infuriates me about this narcissistic, self-aggrandizing Bull-shitter (that would be Bernie), is the fact that the critical governorship in Virginia is very close, and he has withheld his support from Northam on ONE ISSUE: the energy pipeline, which, BTW, is a done deal. Northam is pro women's rights. Pro-health care, pro-public education, pro-public transportation, etc etc etc, and his GOP opponent is the opposite. But Bernie is withholding his support because he is an asshole.

And Hal, assholes don't smell like roses. So glad you are not going to respond "herein."

Edited for stupid stuff. Nothing important.