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Retread: Abramson's thread on

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 07 Nov 2017 02:02:42 +0000

In reply to US media still not reporting

Retread: Abramson's thread on Trump Tower Moscow and how we got here.

US media still not reporting

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 07 Nov 2017 00:13:34 +0000

US media still not reporting half the stories, and much of the other half was actually known 6-8 months ago, but due to sloth, competing glitz, probably conflicts of interests and payoffs/paybacks/intimidation (like the Weinstein methods), well, it all stays bottled up.

Ronan Farrow sticks out as perhaps the most persistent journalist of the year, while Seth Abramson has been likely the most insightful & prolific citizen journalist, whereas Buzzfeed broke the hidden and not-so-hidden play-it-safe rules in releasing the Steele Dossier, the defining and still shunned news event of the year. Note that these 3 are the exceptions, no longer the rule.

Below - Seth's summary of just Papadopoulus - bolded items not reported in the US yet.

Go with your personal

rmrd0000 — Sat, 04 Nov 2017 14:16:36 +0000

In reply to How about in primaries?

Go with your personal preference. Any Democrat is better than any Republican.

Let me add my thanks for the

Flavius — Sat, 04 Nov 2017 10:10:20 +0000

In reply to What If It Means Nothing?

Let me add my thanks for the Vox piece.

Perhaps extrapolating beyond the range of the data If that ,not just disregard for, but actually hostility to, reality were to extend to the commercial world we'd have airplanes falling from the sky ,TV's that electrocute the viewer and scientists that refuse to accept the validity of Global Warming- oops, we do.

But.

When I get out of the Emerald City and visit my country relatives they seem to still remember that 2 plus 2 doesn't equal twenty two. Could we be lucky enough that the contagion will be restricted to the chattering classes?

Which would become even more irrelevant.

Except as I keep reminding

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 04 Nov 2017 07:35:48 +0000

In reply to That's for sure, Moat. I'm

Except as I keep reminding people, those Blix inspections at least set in place documented lies, something the Mueller investigation is doing. They may still roll over the Constitution in the end, but the fact that they did it will at least not be buried.

That's for sure, Moat. I'm

stillidealistic — Sat, 04 Nov 2017 06:53:36 +0000

In reply to I like the way you address

That's for sure, Moat. I'm sure my health has suffered as a result of this creature being in control of the country. Try as I might to just live life and not let him overwhelm me, I am experiencing a low level anxiety 24/7. It's frustrating knowing we have to do SOMETHING, but having no idea what that is. Sitting back and trusting that SOMEONE is going to do something isn't working for me. So I stew about it. The idea that Mueller's investigation might be irrelevant only heightens that anxiety.

I like the way you address

moat — Fri, 03 Nov 2017 23:36:19 +0000

In reply to I never would have thought we

I like the way you address the problem in terms of trying to find something in between completely freaking out and just letting grass grow over oneself. In addition to trying to figure things out, we need to take care of ourselves. That is politics too.

I never would have thought we

stillidealistic — Fri, 03 Nov 2017 23:14:22 +0000

In reply to Stilli, thanks for posting

I never would have thought we'd get to this point, especially so quickly. But if there is anything trump has been remarkably successful at, it's been lying through his teeth while accusing everyone else of lying. It's like these people have had their brains sucked out and replaced with jello.

Now we are faced with a situation where there doesn't seem to be any "truth." Whatever you "think" is your reality and nothing will change that view. In fact, the more "facts" that are presented, the more entrenched people are in believing the opposite.

I don't know how we push past this.

In the Civil War, there were defined boundaries. The South vs. the North. Had the south won, we knew where the boundaries of the new, separate country would be.

But now, how would that work? How do the coasts separate themselves from the middle? The urban areas from the rural?

I'm seriously concerned that the country is in peril, but I have no concept of what the end result would be. If the Republicans "won" the potential civil war, would all the Democrats get rounded up and exterminated? Or would there be separate lands given to each side? Would the military side with donald or with the loyalists? Or would the repubs be the loyalists and the rest of us be the rebels?

I know I'm getting WAAAAAAAAY ahead of myself, but it feels like we are being led down a very ominous road, and if we don't take steps toward taking a different direction, how will we turn back? Without some help from Republicans that don't want to see the country divided, how can we avoid going over the edge? Are we going to have a real, shooting war? Or will we wake up one morning and find that he HAS taken over and we are now being ruled by a dictator?

In some respects, I see that we (or is it just "I"?) need to relax and let this whole thing take it's course, but if it truly doesn't matter, what then? Are we going to take it lying down?

Well, you elite Art

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 03 Nov 2017 20:36:22 +0000

In reply to But I think I'm going to take

Well, you elite Art Establishment types know how to feather your own nests, never caring for the common man (and I do mean "man" in this case). Personally I think you're revelling in your unique identity and ignoring the more important class divisions that keep the underclass from even *knocking* at the door. You blame their unknockability on them, the victims, when more progressive values and taking money from the rich could easily fund a whole new knocking culture that so far escapes them.

But I think I'm going to take

artappraiser — Fri, 03 Nov 2017 19:47:25 +0000

In reply to From NYTimes' The Learning

But I think I'm going to take advantage of it not being mandatory in this counry and stay home next time because national Dem candidates never ever reach out to us NYC residents, they never knock on the door, they take us for granted that we will vote for them and we always do, instead they spend all their time and money trying to woo swing districts and swing voters, because they'd like to win, go figure. it's so unfair </sarcasm>