dagblog - Comments for "On the Texas Church Shooting Perp&#039;s Anger Problem" http://dagblog.com/link/texas-church-shooting-perps-anger-problem-23842 Comments for "On the Texas Church Shooting Perp's Anger Problem" en The other deadly church http://dagblog.com/comment/244888#comment-244888 <a id="comment-244888"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/texas-church-shooting-perps-anger-problem-23842">On the Texas Church Shooting Perp&#039;s Anger Problem</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/11/06/the-other-deadly-church-shooting-in-america-on-sunday/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_other-shooting-6pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&amp;utm_term=.649d2a60a002">The other deadly church shooting in America on Sunday</a></p> <p>By Cleve R. Wootson, Jr. @ WashingtonPost.com, Nov. 6</p> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <blockquote> <p>Manuel Garcia was waiting for his estranged wife and her new boyfriend when they came out of church in the central California city of Fresno, authorities said.</p> <p>The Garcias had raised four children in 43 years of marriage — but a month ago, Martha Garcia filed for divorce, Fresno Police Chief Jerry Dyer told reporters. Shortly after, Martha Garcia told family and friends that there was a new man in her life.</p> <p>The new couple had attended a 7:30 a.m. Mass at St. Alphonsus Church on Sunday.</p> <p>An hour later, officers were called to the church parking lot, where they found the couple in a car, both with gunshot wounds to the head.</p> <p>Martha Garcia was dead. Her boyfriend, whose identity has not been released, died a little while later.</p> <p>Manuel Garcia, authorities said, killed them both [....]</p> </blockquote> <p>The slant of this sort of synchs with the above, but also has a lot of good data apart from the slant:</p> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/11/06/theres-only-one-surefire-answer-to-the-problem-of-mass-shootings/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_analysis-the-answer-545pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&amp;utm_term=.a70b1e83a4f1">Analysis:There’s only one surefire answer to the problem of mass shootings</a></div> <div>By Philip Bump @ WashingtonPost.com, Nov. 6</div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Tue, 07 Nov 2017 04:12:50 +0000 artappraiser comment 244888 at http://dagblog.com Lutheran Pastor Hans Feine: http://dagblog.com/comment/244879#comment-244879 <a id="comment-244879"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/texas-church-shooting-perps-anger-problem-23842">On the Texas Church Shooting Perp&#039;s Anger Problem</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Lutheran Pastor Hans <a href="http://thefederalist.com/2017/11/06/saints-first-baptist-church-murdered-god-answering-prayers/">Feine</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p>So when a madman with a rifle sought to persecute the faithful at First Baptist Church on Sunday morning, he failed. Just like those who put Christ to death, and just like those who have brought violence to believers in every generation, this man only succeeded in being the means through which God delivered his children from this evil world into an eternity of righteousness and peace.</p> </blockquote> <p>The Twelve Apostles, <a href="https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/6/1713236/-Conservatives-look-on-bright-side-of-America-s-latest-mass-murder-At-least-it-was-in-a-church">DK</a>:</p> <p style="text-align:center"><img alt="" height="300" src="https://images.dailykos.com/images/339812/story_image/GettyImages-142881678.jpg?1481905919" width="400" /></p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Tue, 07 Nov 2017 00:58:15 +0000 NCD comment 244879 at http://dagblog.com really exceptional anger http://dagblog.com/comment/244878#comment-244878 <a id="comment-244878"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/texas-church-shooting-perps-anger-problem-23842">On the Texas Church Shooting Perp&#039;s Anger Problem</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>really exceptional anger management issues with this one, wouldn't even have a driver's license if I had my druthers:</p> <div> <p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/06/us/devin-patrick-kelley-texas.html">Gunman Broke Skull of Infant Stepson in 2012 Assault</a></p> <p>By DAVE PHILIPPS and RICHARD A. OPPEL Jr. @ NYTimes.com, 5:19 PM ET</p> <blockquote> <p>[....] “He assaulted his stepson severely enough that he fractured his skull, and he also assaulted his wife,” said Don Christensen, a retired colonel who was the chief prosecutor for the Air Force. “He pled to intentionally doing it.” [....]</p> <p>He had a pit bull puppy that he kept tied up in the sun all day outside of his RV, she said. She also recalled an incident in which the police were called because the man had struck the dog in the head.</p> <p>The police arrived and there was a standoff for approximately an hour, she said, in which her neighbor refused to come out of his trailer.</p> <p>Records show Mr. Kelley was charged with cruelty to animals, a misdemeanor, in August 2014. The case was dismissed. He moved out a few weeks later, she said. [....]</p> <p>In June of this year, Mr. Kelley was hired as an unarmed night security guard at Schlitterbahn, a water park in New Braunfels. Less than six weeks later he was “terminated,” a spokeswoman for the park, Winter D. Prosapio, said Monday, adding, “He was not a good fit.” [....]</p> </blockquote> </div> </div></div></div> Tue, 07 Nov 2017 00:36:10 +0000 artappraiser comment 244878 at http://dagblog.com yeah, just ribbing the http://dagblog.com/comment/244877#comment-244877 <a id="comment-244877"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/244876#comment-244876">But you linked a story a</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>yeah, just ribbing the paranoids who have no clue how behind the eightball the feds are on that and nearly everything else<img alt="cheeky" height="23" src="http://cdn.ckeditor.com/4.5.6/full-all/plugins/smiley/images/tongue_smile.png" title="cheeky" width="23" /> and after Trump (or Pence for that matter) gets done with "draining" them, they will be back in 1940.</p> <p>Killed JFK, orchestrated 9/11, checking your email, you gotta be kidding me...Zuckerberg Amazon et. al. is who they should be fearing</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 07 Nov 2017 00:30:18 +0000 artappraiser comment 244877 at http://dagblog.com But you linked a story a http://dagblog.com/comment/244876#comment-244876 <a id="comment-244876"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/244875#comment-244875">So much for all-seeing all</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>But you linked a story a month ago showing the "National Database" is a bunch of paper in boxes in a trailer/container waiting to be collated and not allowed to be digitized. It's a fucking joke, completely unusable, there just for some kind of CYA or monument to NRA vindictiveness and stupidity.</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 07 Nov 2017 00:17:00 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 244876 at http://dagblog.com So much for all-seeing all http://dagblog.com/comment/244875#comment-244875 <a id="comment-244875"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/texas-church-shooting-perps-anger-problem-23842">On the Texas Church Shooting Perp&#039;s Anger Problem</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>So much for all-seeing all-knowing Big Brother federal government:</p> <div> <div> <p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/06/us/texas-shooting-church.html">Air Force Error Let Gunman Buy Weapon</a></p> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/06/us/texas-shooting-church.html">Suspect’s Conviction Was Never Put Into National Database</a></p> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <p>@ NYTimes.com,  56 minutes ago</p> <ul><li><em>A domestic assault conviction should have barred Devin P. Kelley from legally purchasing the rifle he used to kill 26 people in a Texas church.</em></li> <li><em>The Air Force and the Pentagon will be conducting a review of the case and whether other convictions had been improperly left unreported.</em></li> </ul></div></div></div> Tue, 07 Nov 2017 00:14:34 +0000 artappraiser comment 244875 at http://dagblog.com President Barack Obama signed http://dagblog.com/comment/244864#comment-244864 <a id="comment-244864"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/texas-church-shooting-perps-anger-problem-23842">On the Texas Church Shooting Perp&#039;s Anger Problem</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>President Barack Obama signed an executive order that allowed the Social Security Agency to provide the names of disability recipients with mental issues that made it impossible for people to handle their own affairs as a means of limiting their ability to purchase weapons.. Note at the time of the the executive order, NRA was shouting that mental health issues were at the core of mass shootings. The current guy in the White House repealed the order. The current guy in the White House is now shouting that the Texas shooting was a mental health issue. You can’t make this stuff up.</p> <p><a href="https://thedailybanter.com/2017/11/trump-mental-health-guns/">https://thedailybanter.com/2017/11/trump-mental-health-guns/</a></p> </div></div></div> Mon, 06 Nov 2017 20:17:15 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 244864 at http://dagblog.com Update: Man identified as http://dagblog.com/comment/244835#comment-244835 <a id="comment-244835"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/texas-church-shooting-perps-anger-problem-23842">On the Texas Church Shooting Perp&#039;s Anger Problem</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Update:<a href="http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-pol-essential-washington-updates-alleged-texas-shooter-was-court-1509937194-htmlstory.html"> Man identified as Texas shooter was court-martialed for assault on his spouse and child</a></p> <p>By David S. Cloud and David Lauter, @ LATimes, Nov. 5, 2017, 6:59 p.m.</p> <blockquote> <p>[....] Federal law prohibits a person who has been dishonorably discharged from buying a firearm. Whether Kelley's discharge would trigger the law was not immediately clear.</p> <p>Devin P. Kelley, who served in logistics readiness at Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico starting in 2010, was court-martialed in 2012 for two counts alleging assault on his spouse and assault on their child, Ann Stefanek, the chief of Media Operations for the Air Force, said in a statement.</p> <p>Kelley was convicted and sentenced to 12 months in custody and given a bad conduct discharge,  Stefanek said. He was discharged in 2014.</p> <p>The 1968 Gun Control Act made it unlawful for a licensed firearms dealer to sell a weapon to a person with a dishonorable discharge or for such a person "to [....]</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Mon, 06 Nov 2017 05:44:02 +0000 artappraiser comment 244835 at http://dagblog.com