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I know Roy Moore. He’s always

artappraiser — Sun, 19 Nov 2017 08:53:35 +0000

I know Roy Moore. He’s always been a con artist.

The candidate has made a career of willfully misrepresenting the ideas he claims to stand for.

By Randall Balmer @ WashingtonPost.com, November 17

Randall Balmer is the John Phillips Professor in Religion and director of the Society of Fellows at Dartmouth College.

No, a shitty example as you

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 17 Nov 2017 05:22:00 +0000

In reply to the reason i 'drove by' was

No, a shitty example as you can see from a mild obvious joky shot by a comedian on tour with a model who regularly shows her breasts publicly. He didn't touch her (there was a flak jacket as insulation, which was obviously the point of the gag - perhaps if there was a foot of polystyrene you'd get the point?). He didn't masturbate in front of her. He didn't grab her butt. He didn't run his hands down her pants. He didn't rape her.

Your Buzzfeed comment is another shitty example displaying crap reasoning, as few claim Buzzfeed is as solid a source as WaPo, NPR, etc - they just claim sometimes Buzzfeed gets it right while the rest are sleeping, such as the Steele Dossier where everyone was dithering trying to make up its mind and losing valuable time.

the reason i 'drove by' was

stephen davis — Thu, 16 Nov 2017 23:30:48 +0000

In reply to Franken admitted being dumb

the reason i 'drove by' was that richard day had called al franken his hero the other day. another example of heroes with clay feet, no? alleging that i'm comparing him to roy moore is pure sophistry on your part, not mine.

to old golden decoy: the reason i ended up on that free beacon website was that i waws digging into the original 1967 space treaty (US, UK, USSR) and what upgrades have been proposed since. in this case, the headline was ‘U.S. Opposes New Draft Treaty from China and Russia Banning Space Weapons, Arms control pact sought as Beijing, Moscow secretly build anti-satellite, space arms’

but no doubt you'll enjoy the reasoning:

"Additionally, the space arms ban treaty is part of Russian and Chinese efforts to attack U.S. and allied missile defenses, which are heavily reliant on space sensors and weapons.

"At some point I believe we should put missile defense into space," said Schneider who worked in the Pentagon on strategic defense, space, and verification policies.

Additionally, "Russia is certain to cheat on any space treaty," Schneider said."

but remember that the WaPo's propOrnot recommended that buzzfeed news was as reliable as the NYT, WSJ, NPR, and of course the WaPo, did you believe they actually had the 'smoking gun' of russia financing the US election? aw, rats, it was russia's fault for not commenting before publication time, see? turns out they sent money to 145 nations around the world to set up polling stations for the 2016 russian elections.

and no, groping is not rape, but it sure as hell is sexual assault.

One aspect is of course

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:35:00 +0000

In reply to It's likely that Franken was

One aspect is of course sexual humor as USO shows were known for, and in comedy we have Carol Wayne & her skits with Johnny Carson or Carol Cleveland (the 6th Python/"and now for the oral sex"), or Marilyn doing USO with Bob Hope, etc, so if this woman was brought on as the Hooters girl for comedy, it's a bit hard to see what for - "oh, they made a sexual reference to my breasts" - uh, that *is* what Hooters is, which is why I don't go there. ("Family restaurant", too weird). As for too friendly of kisses, well, much worse behavior we're worried about if we're going to contrast this with campus/office rape and bosses masturbating and pussy/butt grabbing and sexually groping 14 year olds and......

This complaint

conflating a jokey flak jacket "groping" with some issue about copping a kiss under the auspices of a comedy skit, and then extending that to "how I was treated the whole tour" and acting as if the flak jacket thing was so yucky and embarrassing - uh, really?

With no mention of her many times on Fox with Hannity - she mentions him in her Playboy unveiling, why not now? did she raise her voice about Ailes and O'Reilly sexcapades, did Hannity? Did she support Megyn Kelly?

And now Dems are lining up against Franken on cue, 0 humor, 0 irony. We are so stupid.

It's likely that Franken was

ocean-kat — Thu, 16 Nov 2017 19:26:14 +0000

In reply to whew; al franken simply doesn

It's likely that Franken was sexually inappropriate. We're in a time when the veil is being ripped off to reveal the extent of the problem. Now society has to decide how to deal with it. Groping is wrong but it's not rape. Groping an adult women who isn't subordinate to you is different than groping a subordinate or a child. One accusation is different than ten.

If Moore had been accused of dating just one 17 year old high school girl and kissing her that would be different than several girls, one who was 14 and alleges sexual contact, and another that alleges attempted rape. If Cosby had been accused of drugging and sexually assaulting one women that would be different than being accused of assaulting sixty women. There are different levels of evidence needed and different punishments for different offenses.

She is welcome to show her

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 16 Nov 2017 19:25:51 +0000

In reply to Ah yes... The Free Beacon...

She is welcome to show her breasts in whatever setting she wants. Actresses and models often choose to do that. That doesn't mean she's open to be grabbed outside that. I imagine many women have to pluck up a lot of courage to pose naked or semi-naked, others have an easier time performing. But in any case I have no right to steal Kurt Vonnegut's mail even though I've bought several of his books.

Franken admitted being dumb

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 16 Nov 2017 19:05:52 +0000

In reply to whew; al franken simply doesn

Franken admitted being dumb and creepy for taking that picture. He apologized for the skit and asked it to be investigated further, noting many men have done intimidating, harassing things over the years, and it's hopefully a learning, transitional moment.

This is hardly denying events the way Moore, Weinstein and Trump have. But nice try at driveby deception.

Ah yes... The Free Beacon...

oldenGoldenDecoy — Thu, 16 Nov 2017 19:04:37 +0000

In reply to whew; al franken simply doesn

Ah yes... The Free Beacon...

Another division of the Government Accountability Institute.

Now I don't disbelieve her accusations, But keep in mind, everyone in life has a history...

Anyone ever see this woman in the December, 2011 issue of Playboy or her layout in the "The Top Hooters Girls of all time"?

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whew; al franken simply doesn

stephen davis — Thu, 16 Nov 2017 18:28:55 +0000

In reply to Yeah AA, 'they' are kinda

whew; al franken simply doesn't remember it this way. 'Al Franken Offers ‘Sincerest Apologies’ After Being Accused of Groping, Sexual Assaulting Woman in 2006'; Woman's account includes photograph of Franken grabbing her breasts while she slept, freebeacon.com

thank god he's sorry, just in case it did happen.

I do not know where else to

Richard Day — Thu, 16 Nov 2017 04:33:06 +0000

In reply to If Roy Moore is elected,

I do not know where else to put this, but Seder is commenting on the latest Rush...

Oh Moore was once a dem. hahahahahhaha