dagblog - Comments for "Sherrod Brown: Republicans are Liars Owned by the Rich" http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/sherrod-brown-republicans-are-liars-owned-rich-23909 Comments for "Sherrod Brown: Republicans are Liars Owned by the Rich" en "I'll take a hamburger today http://dagblog.com/comment/245359#comment-245359 <a id="comment-245359"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/245279#comment-245279">Nobel laureate Paul Krugman:</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>"I'll take a hamburger today for a dollar on Tuesday" - after all these years we should understand how Wimpy/the GOP got fat. Tuesday never comes.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 24 Nov 2017 06:43:37 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 245359 at http://dagblog.com A democracy can only function http://dagblog.com/comment/245326#comment-245326 <a id="comment-245326"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/245279#comment-245279">Nobel laureate Paul Krugman:</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>A democracy can only function with an educated public. Republicans worked to destroy public education. They are now working to destroy access to information via the internet. Trump supporters are unaware of how they will be impacted by these measures. They don’t know how their taxes will be impacted because their news sources are designed to keep them stupid.</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 22 Nov 2017 14:57:55 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 245326 at http://dagblog.com Shorter explanation: http://dagblog.com/comment/245325#comment-245325 <a id="comment-245325"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/245279#comment-245279">Nobel laureate Paul Krugman:</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Shorter explanation:</p> <p>The GOP is pissing on you and your future and telling you to thank them for "trickling down" on you.</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 22 Nov 2017 14:25:50 +0000 CVille Dem comment 245325 at http://dagblog.com Nobel laureate Paul Krugman: http://dagblog.com/comment/245279#comment-245279 <a id="comment-245279"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/sherrod-brown-republicans-are-liars-owned-rich-23909">Sherrod Brown: Republicans are Liars Owned by the Rich</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Nobel laureate<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/20/opinion/lies-incoherence-and-rage-on-tax-cuts.html?mabReward=ART_CTM1&amp;recid=0weERDo6pNbpGTGJk1vVpkfpztA&amp;recp=0&amp;moduleDetail=recommendations-0&amp;action=click&amp;contentCollection=U.S.&amp;region=Footer&amp;module=WhatsNext&amp;version=WhatsNext&amp;contentID=WhatsNext&amp;src=recg&amp;pgtype=article"> Paul Krugman</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p>...How can Republicans like Paul Ryan, the speaker of the House, pretend to be helping the middle class? It depends crucially on a new kind of budget gimmick: Both the House and Senate tax-cut bills do contain some middle-class tax breaks — but only for the first few years. Then they expire.</p> <p>Take one of Ryan’s favorite examples, a family with two children and earning $59,000 a year. That family would indeed get a tax break next year. But the break would rapidly dwindle and <a href="https://medium.com/whatever-source-derived/how-a-tax-cut-turns-into-a-tax-increase-960c32d1ba82">turn into a tax increase by 2024</a>.</p> <p>The Republican response is to claim that these tax breaks wouldn’t really expire, that Congress would eventually renew them. That’s quite doubtful — and even if true, it means that the tax plans would add much more to the national debt than the G.O.P. admits...</p> <p>...So we’re really looking at an unprecedented level of dishonesty here. But what happens when you try to explain what’s going on? When Senator Sherrod Brown tried to point out, correctly, that the Senate G.O.P.’s tax bill heavily favors the rich, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/17/us/politics/tax-bill-senate-hatch-brown-fight.html">Senator Orrin Hatch exploded</a>, calling it “bull crap” and asserting that he grew up poor (which is relevant why, exactly?).</p> <p>Sorry, but this isn’t the righteous anger of a man falsely accused of wrongdoing. It’s the rage con men always exhibit when caught out in their con.</p> <p>But what’s the con about? The very incoherence of the arguments Republicans are making for their plans shows that it’s not about helping the economy, let alone ordinary families. It really is about making the rich richer, at everyone else’s expense. If this be bull crap, make the most of it.</p> </blockquote> <p>The "new fantastic job creating trickle down GOP tax cuts" for the rich create a tax schedule not indexed to inflation like the current one, and personal exemptions indexed to "a new skimpy GOP inflation measure" which is lower than the already too low index of inflation.</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 21 Nov 2017 01:42:04 +0000 NCD comment 245279 at http://dagblog.com Yes BUT what I think is http://dagblog.com/comment/245229#comment-245229 <a id="comment-245229"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/sherrod-brown-republicans-are-liars-owned-rich-23909">Sherrod Brown: Republicans are Liars Owned by the Rich</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Yes BUT what I think is important for all to clearly see the new wrench that has been thrown into this classic situation: that they've got stuck with this fake populism thing and don't know what to do about that:</p> <p><a href="http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/361034-flake-on-hot-mic-gop-toast-if-we-become-the-party-of-trump-moore">Flake on hot mic: GOP 'toast' if we become the party of Trump, Moore</a></p> <p>By John Bowden @ The Hill.com, Nov. 18</p> <blockquote> <p>[...] At a tax-reform event in Arizona on Saturday, Flake was caught on a live microphone by <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/republican-senator-caught-live-mic-gop-toast-leadership/story?id=51239423" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ABC affiliate KNXV</a> bashing the president in a conversation with Mesa Mayor John Giles, a friend of Flake's.</p> <p>"If we become the party of Roy Moore and <a class="rollover-people-link" href="http://thehill.com/people/donald-trump">Donald Trump</a>, we are toast," Flake is overheard saying.\</p> <p>[....]</p> <p>In a speech on the Senate floor, he accused his party of abandoning its core principles.</p> <div>"It is clear at this moment that <u>a traditional conservative who believes in limited government and free markets, who is devoted to free trade, and who is pro-immigration,</u> has a narrower and narrower path to nomination in the Republican party — the party that for so long has defined itself by belief in those things," Flake said during his speech. </div> <div> </div> <div>"It is also clear to me for the moment we have given in or given up on those core principles in favor of the more viscerally satisfying anger and resentment," he added.</div> </blockquote> <p>Right now you've got the Flakes winning:</p> <p><a href="http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/judicial/360895-senate-chooses-wall-street-over-consumers-seniors-and-service">Senate chooses Wall Street over consumers, seniors, and service members</a></p> <div>By Linda Lipsen, Opinion Contributor @ TheHill.com— 11/17/17 01:25 PM EST</div> <p>And I hasten to add this thought provocation: many of the "Wall Street" type crowd, including Goldman Sachs, and even J'vanka, previously donated, registered and voted Democratic, when the candidates were centrist.</p> <p>And then there's "Hollywood" wealth. You know bout that...</p> <p>The big spending big gummint nanny state vs. free markets is still very much a thing. Hasn't gone away.  And it splits the Dems in two.  Immigration also splits across party lines. Ironically, many of the more educated strongly for it, across the spectrum, conservative to liberal.</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 18 Nov 2017 20:42:17 +0000 artappraiser comment 245229 at http://dagblog.com Oh hell Dick . . . http://dagblog.com/comment/245227#comment-245227 <a id="comment-245227"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/245214#comment-245214">NCD, why not run him.</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><em><strong>Oh hell Dick . . .</strong></em></p> <p>The only truthful part in that blowhard ol' patriarchal Hatch's diatribe was, <em><strong>"...my whole stinking career..."</strong></em></p> <p>Stinking is right... I agree with that 100%...</p> <p>======<br /> ~OGD~</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 18 Nov 2017 18:12:28 +0000 oldenGoldenDecoy comment 245227 at http://dagblog.com Excellent points. Hatch is http://dagblog.com/comment/245219#comment-245219 <a id="comment-245219"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/245213#comment-245213">Barack Obama was able to take</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Excellent points. Hatch is reportedly worth $4.97 million, with big investments in Wall Street banks. His lineage is of no relevance, he's a Koch puppet.</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 18 Nov 2017 04:10:00 +0000 NCD comment 245219 at http://dagblog.com Brown certainly looks good if http://dagblog.com/comment/245218#comment-245218 <a id="comment-245218"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/245214#comment-245214">NCD, why not run him.</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Brown certainly looks good if he keeps callng out what how Republicans are really screwing the poor and middle class.</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 18 Nov 2017 04:05:48 +0000 NCD comment 245218 at http://dagblog.com NCD, why not run him. http://dagblog.com/comment/245214#comment-245214 <a id="comment-245214"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/sherrod-brown-republicans-are-liars-owned-rich-23909">Sherrod Brown: Republicans are Liars Owned by the Rich</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>NCD, why not run him.</p> <p>Hell Brown is Ohio incarnate.</p> <p>DAMN!</p> <p>I like this guy, I always liked this guy.</p> <p>HE AINT AFRAID.</p> <p>We need somebody who aint afraid.</p> <p>hhahahahahah</p> <p>If we cannot find a guy like an Ohioan Brown, we are screwed.</p> <p>Can you imagine him debating the orange buffooon?</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed" height="360px" width="640px"><iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" gesture="media" height="360px" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/T5al0HmR4to" width="640px"></iframe></div> <p>It's a hard rain gonna fall if we cannot find a guy like Brown.</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 18 Nov 2017 01:46:06 +0000 Richard Day comment 245214 at http://dagblog.com Barack Obama was able to take http://dagblog.com/comment/245213#comment-245213 <a id="comment-245213"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/sherrod-brown-republicans-are-liars-owned-rich-23909">Sherrod Brown: Republicans are Liars Owned by the Rich</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Barack Obama was able to take questions from Republicans without getting angry. Hillary sat for hours answering the questions from a Congressional committee without getting angry, The faux outrage we see from Jeff Sessions and Orrin Hatch is one of the signs of a liar. The outrage is an attempt to divert. The liar whines about his honor being under attack. It is an old ploy. Neither Sessions or Hatch is trustworthy.</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 18 Nov 2017 01:29:39 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 245213 at http://dagblog.com