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Question: Russia influenced

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 18 Dec 2017 08:07:00 +0000

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Question: Russia influenced Republicans, black male voters, Jill Stein fans, possible Hillary voters, midwest and southern less educated whites, Hispanics, FBI, local officials to stop liberal-leaning voters, etc.

How much did Russia influence Bernie fans? How many of those unmarked $27 donations came from Russia? That DNC database - did Russia hack it and leave it open? How much pro-Bernie anti-Hillary Facebook and Twitter and Reddit traffic was generated by Russian sources? How many pro-Bernie gatherings were helped by Russian agitators?

Do you have any concern that you were duped by Russians? Lulu insisted Russia had nothing to do with MH17 - now we have audio of the Russian ex-general giving the order. Lulu seems long gone now. Where do you stand on the 800 pound Bear in the room?

Hal, by this time you should

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 18 Dec 2017 07:58:28 +0000

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Hal, by this time you should realize w/o Russian interference, illegal money laundering, vote suppression, etc. that Hillary would have gotten 60% of the vote. She argued her points, she didn't say "let's go to war" or "build a wall", all her positions were close to Bernie's aside from fracking and a TPP proposal that China sent dirty money to block that's been adopted *without* us.

You're not MLK defending rights - you're a whiner and a dog with a bone who won't give up even though you lost fair and square. You and Bernie lost - start your own party if you can't deal with life's normal ups and downs.

Otherwise, take life's lumps and adapt your politics to what *the people* said they wanted w/o the Russian lies and disinfo..

Bernie is fighting the

NCD — Mon, 18 Dec 2017 04:01:10 +0000

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Bernie is fighting the Republicans destruction of our democracy by exposing their lies and attacks on the middle class and poor Hal. Why don't you help him?

Your every post attacking Democrats, and even by your own admission, "The war for the party’s soul will continue to the great benefit of Republicans", you aid the GOP cause.

The intellectual point is ceaseless, unending divisiveness within the Party will not promote the causes you have claimed to value, which you actually acknowledge, but take no heed of.

I wish that was how it worked

ocean-kat — Mon, 18 Dec 2017 03:11:07 +0000

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I wish that was how it worked Hal but you never do that. You haven't addressed a single argument I've made in this thread and you've distorted every sentence I've posted. It was the same the last time we talked. You didn't address a single argument I made against single payer. I no longer expect to have an intellectual discussion or debate with you. Those days are long gone. I only post to you to push back against your views.

You are in such a bubble that

rmrd0000 — Mon, 18 Dec 2017 02:25:31 +0000

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You are in such a bubble that you have paid no attention to what I have repeatedly said about Bernie Sanders and the black community. I am not going to continue this line of conversation because you are not serious.

This website is about making

HSG — Mon, 18 Dec 2017 02:09:49 +0000

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This website is about making intellectual political arguments. If you disagree with my arguments, set forth the evidence on which you rely. Your ad hominem arguments only serve to suggest you have neither evidence nor logic your side.

Are there policies that

HSG — Mon, 18 Dec 2017 02:05:12 +0000

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Are there policies that Bernie espouses with which you disagree?

Bernie is Hal's throwaway

NCD — Mon, 18 Dec 2017 00:02:45 +0000

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Bernie is Hal's throwaway tool to destroy the Democratic Party: "The worldviews of the pro-Clinton and pro-Sanders supporters are simply incompatible."

Unlike Bernie, Hal hasn't expended an iota of interest or effort in stopping the GOP's radical agenda, which subverts every principle and issue Hal feigns are of crucial importance to him.

MLK “Letter from a Birmingham

rmrd0000 — Sun, 17 Dec 2017 23:49:00 +0000

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MLK “Letter from a Birmingham Jail”

"First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."

Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."

https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_Birmingham.html

MLK Jr. did not sugarcoat things to win white converts.

The racism that remains in the country cannot be ignored. Economics does not explain the white vote for Trump. This is one reason Sanders’ words fall on deaf ears in the black community. He is Johnny One Note. He only sees economics and then complains about identity politics. Sanders, for the most part, ignores race, King did not.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/white-working-class-trump-cultural-anxiety/525771/

People are supposed to feel uncomfortable when discussing race. If it feels comfortable, we aren’t doing it right. Moderates are not helpful.

https://goodmenproject.com/social-justice-2/letter-white-moderate/

I am in agreement with your

rmrd0000 — Sun, 17 Dec 2017 23:25:33 +0000

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I am in agreement with your position. This is not a zero sum game. Black women pushed themselves into leadership positions in the Women’s March. Black women had some issues that did not impact white women to the same degree. The coalition of women made each group more powerful. Better Together. We have a coalition that includes white voters. These voters are appalled by a guy in the White House who found good people among Neo-Nazis. A white supremacist crushed the legs of a black man and killed Heather Hyer in Charlottesville. People can’t feed me BS that those who support Trump are only motivated because they are butt hurt by their economic situation.