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If I have written something

HSG — Mon, 18 Dec 2017 01:59:52 +0000

In reply to Hal your constant unending

If I have written something that you believe is incorrect, please set forth the evidence that supports your belief.

So should Democrats stop

HSG — Mon, 18 Dec 2017 01:56:47 +0000

In reply to The white female vote surged

So should Democrats stop trying to attract white women voters? How would you recommend they do this?

I'll augment my response

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 17 Dec 2017 14:24:02 +0000

In reply to When you watch the AM Joy

I'll augment my response elsewhere to note that *rejecting* black participation in these actions is a mistake. Nevertheless I cringe when I hear of something like the million women march didn't start off addressing black women well enough. People do things organically usually, who they know, what their contacts are. This goes for Black, white, Hispanic, whatever... when it gets big enough to notice that, just make it more inclusive - don't need the constant condemnation of things that didn't quite happen our way.

Hal your constant unending

NCD — Sat, 16 Dec 2017 18:14:11 +0000

In reply to As a percentage of the total

Hal your constant unending rants and attacks on Democrats is either foolish or a fraud.

As Bernie knows and is acting on today, Trump voters won't believe him, and stop voting GOP, until they recognize the Republicans are liars, con men and servants of the rich.

You have never done one blog on what Republicans are doing to destroy what you claim to value. Making your commitment to your avowed principles empty and lacking a shred of sincerity.

When you watch the AM Joy

rmrd0000 — Sat, 16 Dec 2017 17:35:35 +0000

In reply to I think this is the most

When you watch the AM Joy segment with BlackPAC, you will see this discussed. The Jones campaign initially rejected help from black activists. The error was corrected. BlackPAC will be active in other states.

And I would add for Hal, as a

artappraiser — Sat, 16 Dec 2017 17:29:21 +0000

In reply to I think this is the most

And I would add for Hal, as a upper midwest native who still often feels an outsider in NYC after 35 years, that part of the problem as I see it for Bernie and his fans is that they still present with this culture: a Northeasterner who, for anyone elsewhere "doesn't get me and my world."

I think this is the most

artappraiser — Sat, 16 Dec 2017 17:13:18 +0000

In reply to Alabama win offers vivid lessons to Democrats

I think this is the most interesting part of Eligon's New York Times' piece:

That led to some questionable messaging, said Ms. Brown, whose organization spent about $200,000 to help organize on-the-ground mobilization efforts.

In one instance, the Jones campaign mailed out a flyer that featured a picture of a black man twisting his face into a skeptical, somewhat comical expression, beneath a provocative headline: “Think if a black man went after high school girls. Anyone would try to make him a senator?”

On the back, it detailed sexual assault allegations against Mr. Moore and implored voters to “stand up against these kinds of double standards.”

“It did not recognize that in the context of the South, that when black men were accused of those kinds of things, not only would you not win office, in some circumstances they were lynched,” Ms. Brown said. “I don’t know a single black person in my circle that was not offended by that piece.”

All politics is local ~ Tip O'Neill

The white female vote surged

rmrd0000 — Sat, 16 Dec 2017 16:45:07 +0000

In reply to As a percentage of the total

The white female vote surged because Moore was a pedophile. The majority of whites women voted for a racist pedophile.

Can you point to elections where white voters responded to education and health care platforms? Bill Clinton and Barack Obama did not get a majority of the votes of white women

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/white-women-support-gop/507617/

Those white female votes are likely to go back to the GOP when theirs is a less repulsive candidate than Roy Moore.

From the platform

rmrd0000 — Sat, 16 Dec 2017 16:26:57 +0000

In reply to We agree that this is crucial

From the platform

Closing the Racial Wealth Gap

America’s economic inequality problem is even more pronounced when it comes to racial and ethnic disparities in wealth and income. It is unacceptable that the median wealth for African Americans and Latino Americans is roughly one-tenth that of white Americans. These disparities are also stark for American Indians and certain Asian American subgroups, and may become even more significant when considering other characteristics such as age, disability status, sexual orientation, or gender identity.

The racial wealth and income gaps are the result of policies that discriminate against people of color and constrain their ability to earn income and build assets to the same extent as other Americans. It has accumulated over time and is made worse by ongoing policies and practices. For example, African Americans and Latinos lost more than half of their net worth as a result of the housing crisis and the Great Recession, because they lost jobs at a much faster rate than white workers and because they were disproportionately targeted for subprime, predatory, and fraudulent mortgages during the run-up to the housing crisis.

Democrats believe it is long past time to close this racial wealth gap. Disparities in wealth cannot be solved by the free market alone, but instead, the federal government must play a role in eliminating systemic barriers to wealth accumulation for different racial groups and improving opportunities for people from all racial and ethnic backgrounds to build wealth. Federal policies must remove barriers to achieving sustainable homeownership, provide for greater diversity in federal and state contracting practices, incentivize and expand access to retirement investment programs, increase opportunities for quality jobs and education, and challenge the deeply rooted structures that perpetuate and exacerbate current disparities and ultimately stagnate the nation’s economic growth and security.

As a percentage of the total

HSG — Sat, 16 Dec 2017 16:24:15 +0000

In reply to I said that the black

As a percentage of the total vote, Doug Jones got twice as many white votes as Obama did in 2012. This was crucial. I guess it was wise to reach out to both the white and black communities. You say that nothing can cajole white Alabama women to vote for Democrats. Is that because white Alabama women don't care whether their families have health care, their kids can go to college, or their husbands can get a decent job? https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/politics/alabama-exit-polls...