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artappraiser — Wed, 10 Jan 2018 12:31:09 +0000

In reply to To beat President Trump, you have to learn to think like his supporters

I don't have any answers for your questions. I'd just like to say that I think this is Rondon's best essay so far and I recommend it.

Also to point out some things from it. Your clip ends at this one suggestion Showing concern is the only way to break the rhetorical polarization. But at the very end, he also suggests the "don't feed the troll" thing is important, in an incredibly eloquent way.

So as the second year of Trump’s administration approaches, stop. Take a deep breath. Let all the hatred circle from afar. Don’t let it into your echo chamber. Try to hush it, pause it. Don’t let it close your eyes and tear your own society, your own family, apart. Remember: There’s more to life than politics. And scandal, for a populist, does not end in a noisy downfall. It ends in silence.

He also very eloquently describes how anger vs. anger gets you not just nothing but a dangerous war-like situation where the populist troll wins, that is what is intended whether unconsciously or not.

Finally, here is the bad flaw I see in his argument that what is happening here is like what happened with Chavez

Sure, his overall approval rating has dwindled to below 40 percent , but his base — the only people Trump appears to think he should answer to — still loves him. In one November poll, only 7 percent of his supporters from 2016 said they’d vote differently if they could. Which is to say, in the face of all this scandal, Trump is not even close to collapse. He and his supporters are simply grinning back at you.

That 7% , combined with the disapproving is all one needs to boot him out next election!!! That's the swing vote that got him in, and it will take him out. I don't get why he even puts that paragraph in! It ruins the direness of his warnings. . A strong majority in not in support of our 'Chavez', and he's going downhill, not uphill.

His dire warnings are about a majority population that is hungry for the populist to feed them. We don't have that. He's lost the people that helped put him in the White House. It might even be that feeding the troll has actually worked out well in this case!

A third of our population has been voting as conservative as possible for decades, Dems are never going to get them. It's wise standard political practice for any Dem to just write that 3rd off because the majority are not going to vote for someone pandering to sexism, racism, Christian statism and other literal readers of holy texts, live-free-or-die, etc., all the usual Tea Party stuff. The basic reason Trump got elected is some swings thought he was a moderate policy-wise (I.e., I'm gonna fix health insurance, it's gonna be better; MAGA, jobs jobs jobs, reign in immigration so that there's more well paying jobs jobs jobs, he was gonna fix stuff like Wall St.). Thought they bought the currently self-described 'genius" billionaire with outside the box thinking. Those 7% now know they bought a pig in a poke.

Cavaet: keep in mind those 7% have turned against Trump populism. See it didn't work out as promised. That does not mean they will not be voting Republican for other races! These are the swings, the independents. They are looking for someone new and different. I.E., Obama, not Hillary (2008), but then maybe a Republican Congressperson or Senator to balance him out, especially in the case that he turns out as "liberal" as many of this type think Hillary secretly was (the "it takes a village" Hillary who is going have the government tell you how to raise your kids.) But they tried this crazy billionaire Trump guy, gave him a chance, told the pollster will give him a chance, feel ripped off now.

If people are still in the

rmrd0000 — Tue, 09 Jan 2018 20:29:12 +0000

In reply to To beat President Trump, you have to learn to think like his supporters

If people are still in the Trump camp, they are lost to the Democratic Party. They refuse to acknowledge the harm done to health care and support theft of money from the middle class via the GOP tax plan. Democrats need to focus on the voters who realize what the GOP is doing. Recent elections have shown that targeting these voters can result in victories.

Cutting health care does not address the opioid crisis. If you read Hillbilly Elegy, you see the Republican solution to the opioid crisis is to address the moral failures of the victims. The goal of the tax cut is to create a deficit large enough to allow for the Republicans to call for slashing Social Security and Medicare. If you telegraph to voters that Democrats are aware of what the GOP is doing, Democrats have an edge.

Blacks and Latinos will have to be told repeatedly that their votes are important via outreach. Democrats will also have get vocal about voter suppression and combat the practice at every turn. Their are enough blacks, whites, and Latinos to increase Democratic numbers in Congress.

538 has Trump approval at 38.7% today. A relatively stable number.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo

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