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same leakers @ the NYTimes on

artappraiser — Thu, 18 Jan 2018 01:26:20 +0000

In reply to wheeling and dealing reality

same leakers @ the NYTimes from Kelly's closed door meeting with the Hispanic Caucus, they've made it their current headline, same basic message of "pay no attention to the clown performances"

Kelly Says Trump’s Wall Promises ‘Not Fully Informed’

By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG 6:03 PM ET

White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly told Hispanic members of Congress that he had “tempered” President Trump’s position on the border wall and DACA, Representative Raúl Grijalva said.

The president’s views are said to have shifted away from a literal wall to the understanding that “barriers can mean many different things,’’ the representative added.

oh they also actually have

artappraiser — Thu, 18 Jan 2018 01:06:54 +0000

In reply to and there's this @ Politico

oh they also actually have one on the topic of how Congress is increasingly learning that it's becoming useless to pay attention to the clown:

Trump's credibility crisis on Capitol Hill

Lawmakers find it difficult or impossible to negotiate when the president can't seem to stick to a position for more than a few hours.

@ Politico.com, 01/17/2018 10:42 AM EST

and there's this @ Politico

artappraiser — Thu, 18 Jan 2018 00:42:25 +0000

In reply to wheeling and dealing reality

and there's this @ Politico on the other side's paradox:

Republicans’ no-win choice: Dreamers or defense

The government shutdown threat is forcing the party to choose between maintaining a hard-line on immigration and spending more on the military.

01/17/2018 07:17 PM EST

wheeling and dealing reality

artappraiser — Thu, 18 Jan 2018 00:39:25 +0000

In reply to You can only play the cards in your hand

wheeling and dealing reality report, though through leakers; it's still going on, Kelly with Congressional Dems from Hispanic Caucus and Steny Hoyer in closed door session (is this like the flip side of Wizard of Oz where they are not supposed to be paying any serious attention to the clown performing in front of the curtain?)

Kelly calls some of Trump’s campaign pledges on immigration, wall ‘uninformed,’ meeting attendees say

By Ed O'Keefe @ WashingtonPost.com, Jan. 17, 6 pm

White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly told Democratic lawmakers Wednesday that Mexico will never pay for a wall built by the United States along the entire stretch of the U.S.-Mexico border and that some of President Trump’s campaign promises on immigration were “uninformed,” according to lawmakers who attended the meeting.

The remarks put Kelly at odds with Trump, who has repeatedly vowed to build a border wall that would be paid for by Mexico rather than U.S. taxpayers. Kelly’s statements also add to the mixed signals on immigration sent by the White House in the months since Trump announced the end of an Obama-era program protecting young immigrant “dreamers” in September.

Democrats and Republicans have warned in recent days that Trump is not clearly stating what he wants as part of a deal to replace the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program and bolster security along the U.S.-Mexico border.

Kelly’s comments were made in a closed-door session at the U.S. Capitol with members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus and House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.). This account of the meeting is based on notes taken by two lawmakers in the room that were confirmed by two additional lawmakers in the room and one senior aide in attendance [....]

The Democrats gave Trump

rmrd0000 — Wed, 17 Jan 2018 20:28:43 +0000

In reply to Perfectly logical.

The Democrats gave Trump virtually everything he wanted. Hardline Republicans blew up the deal. Other networks will be reporting enough of the facts to make Republicans look bad. We have s-hole Trump as the face of the problem.

Perfectly logical.

Flavius — Wed, 17 Jan 2018 18:45:05 +0000

In reply to I think the Republicans will

Perfectly logical.

But my concern is:

McConnell and Ryan know they've got to change electoral sentiment between now and the beginning of mail ballots . If they were dumb enough to believe their own talking points they'd think they could just wait for the public to respond to the glories of the "tax reform" . They aren't and they won't. So they need something.

A shutdown could be"something". Particularly one which Fox would present as the Democrats depriving Americans of the services they are entitled to rather than sending a lot of illegals back to their shit holes.

I think the Republicans will

rmrd0000 — Wed, 17 Jan 2018 18:04:21 +0000

In reply to You can only play the cards in your hand

I think the Republicans will do a continuing resolution. They control the Presidency and both houses of Congress. If there is a shutdown, Republicans look weak.