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The Hill also published this

artappraiser — Mon, 22 Jan 2018 00:35:29 +0000

In reply to TheHill.com:

The Hill also published this a half hour after the above (but the above is still their home page headline story):

Trump speaks with GOP leaders amid shutdown talks

01/21/18 04:58 PM EST

TheHill.com:

artappraiser — Mon, 22 Jan 2018 00:11:39 +0000

In reply to Zaniness not over! Big giant

TheHill.com:

Senate group scrambles for deal to end shutdown

By Jordain Carney - 01/21/18 04:23 PM EST

A bipartisan group of roughly 20 senators are working toward an agreement to reopen the government.

Sen. Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.) said the group had reached a "consensus of understanding," not an agreement, noting those are two different things.

Multiple senators who were part of the talks stressed that their talks are fluid, and that the final decision rests with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), who have been kept up to date on the talks.

But leaving a meeting held in Sen. Susan Collins's (R-Maine) office, some members expressed optimism that they will reach an understanding, if not a final agreement, that would allow them to approve a bill to reopen the government [.....]

Zaniness not over! Big giant

artappraiser — Mon, 22 Jan 2018 00:08:03 +0000

In reply to Was it worth it?

ZANINESS NOT OVER, Big giant headline @ WaPo, they're working tonight:

Moderates race to strike deal and end shutdown before workweek

Trump, Ryan lean on Senate to break logjam on spending deal

Despite optimism from some centrist senators that they were close to an agreement, it remains unclear whether they can secure the support of leadership. After meetings with each other as well as with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.), there were no immediate signs of a major breakthrough.

“It’s going to get a lot harder tomorrow,” said Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.), who said the White House was largely uninvolved in talking with the bipartisan group of senators and that staff there “has been unreliable to work with on this issue.”

By Robert Costa, Erica Werner, Mike DeBonis and Sean Sullivan

VIDEO CLIP from Congress tonight:

I agree that the Democrats

HSG — Sun, 21 Jan 2018 22:14:45 +0000

In reply to Was it worth it?

I agree that the Democrats did the right thing. They should not be complicit in passing the soulless Trump/Ryan/McConnell Republican budget and ignoring the Dreamer deportations. I disagree that this will hurt them in the mid-terms.

Furthemore

Flavius — Sun, 21 Jan 2018 19:18:14 +0000

In reply to Schumer played the hand as

Furthemore

www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/daca-dreamers-shutdown_us_5a63bf1ee4b0e5630...

Schumer played the hand as

Flavius — Sun, 21 Jan 2018 19:07:49 +0000

In reply to Not Dems fault, they did not

Schumer played the hand as well as it could be. I think. Calculated he was at the point of maximum effectiveness so he put all his chips on the table.

And the game was worth the candle : 700,000 human beings , 700,000 of our neighbors living in the shadows, in uncertainty. No decent country should turn them down. Which was what he was trying to stop us from doing.

Win or lose I give him credit for trying.. Didn't work. That's life..

You miss all the shots you don't attempt .

Obviously I hope you're right

Flavius — Sun, 21 Jan 2018 18:47:26 +0000

In reply to I agree that the Democrats

Obviously I hope you're right.

Via Twitter:

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 21 Jan 2018 17:07:19 +0000

In reply to Haberman also retweeted these

Via Twitter:

Republicans: Eat this piece of poop
Democrats: We are not going to eat that poop
NYT: Democrats turn down free meal
AP: Democrats refuse GOP peace offering

AP - The Latest: Senate Democrats appear to have
derailed a Republican bill aimed at preventing a federal shutdown.

NYTimes - Senate Democrats blocked passage of a stopgap spending
bill to keep the government open. Lawmakers have less than 2 hours
before a shutdown.

Haberman also retweeted these

artappraiser — Sun, 21 Jan 2018 16:56:14 +0000

In reply to Not Dems fault, they did not

Haberman also retweeted this which synched with what she knew (Trump's fault): WaPo on like negotiating with jello:

Trump seemed startled last week by a proposal passed out by his own DHS head and told lawmakers to disregard. Inside the last two weeks with a president who is slippery and often tells people what they want to hear: https://t.co/hhmQpshW78
— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) January 20, 2018

and tweeted this, how he's not listening to his own advisers:

Trump's advisers are urging him to resist his impulse to try to get more involved in the shutdown fix after Schumer meeting stunt was perceived as a pmistake w @juliehdavis https://t.co/Dt0afAY9ok
— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) January 21, 2018

and this in reply to Liam Donovan, repeating that:

Which his staff had been urging him not to do https://t.co/rsS8lX8g82
— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) January 21, 2018

and then retweeted this:

So to recap, Trump indicates interest in Durbin-Graham before Kelly picks up the batphone to Cotton/Perdue and DJT changes his mind. Then when DHS presents wish list reflecting Cotton/Perdue-style asks, POTUS gets irked and brushes it off. Like pinning jello to a wall. https://t.co/rSrtAXpFjD
— Liam Donovan (@LPDonovan) January 21, 2018

and a bunch of other stuff that fills out the story like Eric Trump just saying on ABC that "honestly, I think it's a good thing for us" which Peracles posted as well.

Not Dems fault, they did not

artappraiser — Sun, 21 Jan 2018 16:35:01 +0000

In reply to Was it worth it?

Not Dems fault, they did not draw a line in the sand, they thought they had a deal; Trump's fault:

They were closer to a deal than it seemed, and then it fell apart by late day. @shearm and me https://t.co/5Di34p7g5M
— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) January 20, 2018

Excerpt from above link:

[....] As the meal progressed, an outline of an agreement was struck, according to one person familiar with the discussion: Mr. Schumer said yes to higher levels for military spending and discussed the possibility of fully funding the president’s wall on the southern border with Mexico. In exchange, the president agreed to support legalizing young immigrants who were brought to the United States as children.

Mr. Schumer left the White House believing he had persuaded the president to support a short, three to four-day spending extension to finalize an agreement, which would also include disaster funding and health care measures.

“In my heart, I thought we might have a deal tonight,” Mr. Schumer recalled later on the Senate floor, shortly after the government officially shut down at midnight. At 11:55 p.m., he had been greeted with a blistering White House statement that “Senate Democrats own the Schumer Shutdown.”

Mr. Trump, a onetime real estate mogul whose book “The Art of the Deal” proclaimed his mastery of negotiation, has struggled at times to seal deals as president [.....]

Haberman also tweeted this right before the above:

You mean politicians on both sides of the aisle somethings say different things privately than publicly? https://t.co/8VKuB1GF5K
— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) January 20, 2018