dagblog - Comments for "Steep tariffs imposed on foreign-made solar panels and washing machines" http://dagblog.com/link/steep-tariffs-imposed-foreign-made-solar-panels-and-washing-machines-24316 Comments for "Steep tariffs imposed on foreign-made solar panels and washing machines" en Fantastic. http://dagblog.com/comment/247366#comment-247366 <a id="comment-247366"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/247365#comment-247365">Ahhhh...   ...</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Fantastic.</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 24 Jan 2018 23:53:15 +0000 HSG comment 247366 at http://dagblog.com Ahhhh...   ... http://dagblog.com/comment/247365#comment-247365 <a id="comment-247365"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/247349#comment-247349">Thanks OGD. Is that an</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><em><strong>Ahhhh... </strong></em><img alt="yes" height="23" src="http://cdn.ckeditor.com/4.5.6/full-all/plugins/smiley/images/thumbs_up.png" title="yes" width="23" /> <img alt="yes" height="23" src="http://cdn.ckeditor.com/4.5.6/full-all/plugins/smiley/images/thumbs_up.png" title="yes" width="23" /> <strong>...</strong></p> <p>Family heirloom. My great uncle worked for Maytag in Newton, IA and this is actually a photo of the same model type in our family's possession.</p> <p>~OGD~</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 24 Jan 2018 23:41:42 +0000 oldenGoldenDecoy comment 247365 at http://dagblog.com It does make a big difference http://dagblog.com/comment/247350#comment-247350 <a id="comment-247350"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/247331#comment-247331">I realized what happened - I</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>It does make a big difference to American (and Chinese) workers where Samsung makes washing machines.</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 24 Jan 2018 13:53:56 +0000 HSG comment 247350 at http://dagblog.com Thanks OGD. Is that an http://dagblog.com/comment/247349#comment-247349 <a id="comment-247349"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/247343#comment-247343">Hal ... related article...</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Thanks OGD. Is that an oldengolden washing machine?</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 24 Jan 2018 13:52:38 +0000 HSG comment 247349 at http://dagblog.com Hal ... related article... http://dagblog.com/comment/247343#comment-247343 <a id="comment-247343"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/steep-tariffs-imposed-foreign-made-solar-panels-and-washing-machines-24316">Steep tariffs imposed on foreign-made solar panels and washing machines</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><strong>Hal ... <em>related article...</em></strong></p> <p>January 23, 2018 |<strong><em> </em></strong>Electrek</p> <p><strong><a href="https://electrek.co/2018/01/23/tesla-solar-product-manufacturing-us-tariffs/">Tesla reiterates commitment to expanding solar<br /> product manufacturing in the US after new tariffs</a></strong><br />  </p> <blockquote> <p>Tesla’s manufacturing effort at Gigafactory 2 in Buffalo, which it took over as part of its acquisition of SolarCity, has seen some delays over the last year.</p> <p>But the company now reiterates its commitment to expanding solar product manufacturing in the US following Trump’s solar tariff decision.</p> <p>A Tesla spokesperson sent us the following statement after <a href="https://electrek.co/2018/01/22/breaking-trump-taxes-solar-industry-30-tesla/">Trump’s administration announced a new 30 % tariff on imported solar panels</a> yesterday:</p> <blockquote> <p><em>“Tesla is committed to expanding its domestic manufacturing, including Gigafactory 2 in Buffalo, New York, regardless of the solar tariff decision today.”</em></p> </blockquote> <p>Tesla partnered with Panasonic at the factory. The Japanese electronics giant has been manufacturing solar modules at the plant since this past summer, but they have been using solar cells imported from their overseas factories, which means that those panels will be partly affected by the new tariff.</p> <p>But <a href="https://electrek.co/2017/12/06/tesla-solar-roof-panasonic-gigafactory-2-3/">Panasonic was ‘getting ready’ to start producing solar cells at Tesla Gigafactory 2</a> last month and the first 2.5GW of solar cells imported will not be tariffed under the new program.</p> <p>Panasonic’s cells will be used for both module and solar roof tile production, which should eventually help Tesla’s products completely escape the new solar tariff for its solar installations.</p> </blockquote> <p> </p> <p><strong>Oh and... Uh... </strong>When the washing machine goes <em>poof... </em><br /> I guess I'll have to get the old standby Maytag out<br /> of storage.</p> <p> </p> <p><img alt="" height="391" src="https://i.imgur.com/ZoaXvoW.jpg" width="280" /></p> <p> </p> <p>~OGD~</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 24 Jan 2018 06:45:35 +0000 oldenGoldenDecoy comment 247343 at http://dagblog.com lol! http://dagblog.com/comment/247333#comment-247333 <a id="comment-247333"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/247332#comment-247332">Well, this is kind of an odd</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>lol!</p> <p>But but but how do you know those bad Samsung washer reviews aren't by pro-Trump Russian bots, hmmm? <img alt="cheeky" height="23" src="http://cdn.ckeditor.com/4.5.6/full-all/plugins/smiley/images/tongue_smile.png" title="cheeky" width="23" /></p> </div></div></div> Wed, 24 Jan 2018 00:34:16 +0000 artappraiser comment 247333 at http://dagblog.com Well, this is kind of an odd http://dagblog.com/comment/247332#comment-247332 <a id="comment-247332"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/steep-tariffs-imposed-foreign-made-solar-panels-and-washing-machines-24316">Steep tariffs imposed on foreign-made solar panels and washing machines</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Well, this is kind of an odd coincidence. Our 20 year old washing machine is creaking around on its' last legs and I have been researching for a replacement. Nearly every product review site I have visited has warned against the Samsung washers.  Did trump just do us a favor?  Oh em gee.  Did I just type that out loud?</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 24 Jan 2018 00:14:46 +0000 wabby comment 247332 at http://dagblog.com I realized what happened - I http://dagblog.com/comment/247331#comment-247331 <a id="comment-247331"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/247325#comment-247325">Sorry about that PP. I missed</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I realized what happened - I saw the latest anniuncement, but was more interested in <a href="https://www.axios.com/americas-chinese-solar-dilemma-1513306185-d2826b0d-8600-4e01-925b-994d4a5fe831.html">the background article that discussed some tradeoffs between manufacturing solar panels and adopting them quickly &amp; widesprea</a>d, between profiting from manufacturing vs profiting from sales &amp; installation with a consumer benefit of lower cost, along with the societal benefit of lower greenhouse gas emissions. Trump again focused on the equivalent of those near meaningless 6000 coal jobs while ignoring the much bigger picture. We're all romantic about manufacturing jobs, but even here it's Chinese setting up shop here vs making them in China, as if it makes a huge difference. Almost no one does a cost-benefits analysis.</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 23 Jan 2018 22:43:00 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 247331 at http://dagblog.com The use of the word "punishes http://dagblog.com/comment/247327#comment-247327 <a id="comment-247327"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/247318#comment-247318">Your Axios story is from Oct.</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The use of the word "punishes" in the Guardian piece is interesting on two counts. One, It  inaccurately implies that Samsung is being harmed because it decided to manufacture some washing machines in the United States. In fact, the Samsung's (and LG's) decision to produce in South Carolina and Tennessee appear prescient. Indeed they probably were based on the fact that Trump had been suggesting for some months that he was considering the imposition of tariffs. Both corporations will likely experience heightened demand for their American-made machines since they will be relatively cheaper than the foreign-made units that are subject to the new tariffs.</p> <p>The word "punishes" is also interesting because it casts a multinational corporation in the role of the victim of a malicious President.  In contrast, I can't recall a news article in which workers, who are laid off after a plant relocates overseas in the wake of a trade deal, are described as being punished by Congress and the President. Even so, the latter use would probably be more fitting.</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 23 Jan 2018 17:59:55 +0000 HSG comment 247327 at http://dagblog.com No worries, didnt realize http://dagblog.com/comment/247326#comment-247326 <a id="comment-247326"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/247325#comment-247325">Sorry about that PP. I missed</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>No worries, didnt realize other story that old either</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 23 Jan 2018 17:50:43 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 247326 at http://dagblog.com