dagblog - Comments for "#MeToo is about more than stopping rape. "

(disclaimer - didn't read the

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 02 Feb 2018 12:40:56 +0000

(disclaimer - didn't read the piece, but have expressed my opinion on the Aziz hitjob elsewhere)

I think #MeToo needs go beyond simply "legal", as the difficulty of preventing or prosecuting sexual assault and sexual harassment through the courts is well-documented. But it loses its justice if it gets too whack on every comment, touch, whatever. Serious women's (and men's) complaints deserve to be taken seriously, with a serious attempt at resolving the issues. Unserious problems? how about we wait for #MeToo2.0 at least, if we ever get there.

Exactly, "going viral" is the

artappraiser — Thu, 01 Feb 2018 21:35:39 +0000

In reply to I have a problem with hashtag

Exactly, "going viral" is the danger of our age. The psychology of the mob was recognized and published before before the 20th century started, and demagogues took advantage, led to the most horrific events. On the other hand, they always did this by controlling the mob after they got power. So the whole internet age is still a great new experiment to see if the mob can eventually reign in itself.

I see people who participate on small sites like this one as wanting to avoid the tyranny of the mob. Where you could look at and talk about what the mob is doing with a few others of varying persuasions. Wolraich deserves kudos for keeping it up, we need more.

I have a problem with hashtag

barefooted — Thu, 01 Feb 2018 20:57:54 +0000

In reply to I posted this article not

I have a problem with hashtag “movements” in general. While I heartily acknowledge the advantages of spreading worthwhile causes among a huge swath of humanity in the blink of an eye, the flip-side is that damage can be done just as quickly. It’s the 21st century version of populist justice and is just as fraught with danger as any method that has come before – including the issues associated with separating legal frameworks from societal ones.

I posted this article not

ocean-kat — Thu, 01 Feb 2018 19:15:08 +0000

In reply to #MeToo is about more than stopping rape.

I posted this article not because I agree with it. I vehemently disagree with it. But it is a good summery of a certain position on the metoo movement. I disagree with the idea that, "#MeToo is not about what’s legal, it’s about what’s right." Metoo should be about assault, coercion and harassment. I mostly agree with the idea that the social compact between men and women over dating and consensual sex should be renegotiated. But that's a separate conversation. Attempts to integrate a conversation about the cultural and social changes needed around dating and consensual sex with the metoo movement will damage the movement and not produce the cultural changes desired.