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Actually, what I am seeing

artappraiser — Fri, 23 Feb 2018 07:22:39 +0000

Actually, what I am seeing bouncing around the news is floating trial balloons along the lines of "NRA wouldn't be that upset if we raised the age for assault weapons to 21" So then they could say they did so do "something" or "act" as has been the meme with many teen protestors. And the NRA could pretend they were upset. Trump already proposed that Tues. and repeated it in a tweet Weds. .

I just checked to see if

artappraiser — Fri, 23 Feb 2018 06:50:53 +0000

In reply to Ok but no free guns from this

I just checked to see if Popular Mechanics was still around and guess what, yes it is, and on the top banner there's this story

Well-Meaning Gun Owner Accidentally Creates Illegal Firearm in Viral Video

Cutting the barrel didn't disable the AR-15, and actually made it illegal to own.

Ok but no free guns from this

artappraiser — Fri, 23 Feb 2018 06:46:54 +0000

In reply to Best way to do it, yes, arm

Ok but no free guns from this taxpayer, they have to learn to make their own with a laptop and a 3-D printer so that they have learned some Mechanical Arts!

Best way to do it, yes, arm

NCD — Fri, 23 Feb 2018 06:22:57 +0000

In reply to Arming the teachers is a

Best way to do it, yes, arm the kids.

Mechanical Arts could armor the hall walls and doors for shooting practice. The kids could blow off 100 round mags with bump stocks down hallway free fire zones, it could also give the less academic types reason to not drop out.

Arming the teachers is a

ocean-kat — Fri, 23 Feb 2018 04:14:39 +0000

In reply to Trump is right. But teachers

Arming the teachers is a waste since there are so few teachers, and so many students. If schools would arm the students that would be effective. One bad guy shooter one thousand good guy students with guns. They could hand out the guns in the morning home room and turn them in during the last class of the day.

Trump is right. But teachers

NCD — Fri, 23 Feb 2018 03:40:46 +0000

In reply to Our postmodern neo-Marxists

Trump is right. But teachers with Glocks are no match for a teen with an assault weapon and a huge magazine. The teachers wouldn't stand a chance.

Hardening must first include placing wireless armed mines in all school hallways, exits and entrances. Once armed, shooters would not be able to move without blowing off a foot or leg. Anti-personnel rockets, in critical locations, remotely armed and targeted from school district headquarters, would be absolutely awesome.

After the shooter is disabled, bleeding and down, then the teachers could execute the coup de grass with a shot in the neck to sever the spinal column.

Trump’s budget cuts funding

rmrd0000 — Fri, 23 Feb 2018 03:25:37 +0000

In reply to Our postmodern neo-Marxists

Trump’s budget cuts funding for school security

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/15/school-safety-cuts-trump-administration-348968

I don't believe most mass

ocean-kat — Fri, 23 Feb 2018 03:01:33 +0000

In reply to The idea is to stop the

I don't believe most mass shooters are looking for soft targets. Most target the place and people who they feel they have grievances. Some men go to their work place and kill their colleages. Some men feel they have a grievance with their wife or girlfriend. They target her home and family, or they target her work places and work friends, or they go to her church and kill her and other parishioners. They don't go to the local school just because it's a soft target. Most school shooters go to the school they attended because they feel they have a grievance there.

I also don't believe that arming teachers will make schools less of a soft target. Let's look at the most recent school shooting. Cage pulled a fire alarm to get crowds of students into the hall ways. Cage could have missed every target he aimed at and still have killed 17 people and injured dozens. If he missed his target the bullet would likely have hit the person standing to the left of him or some person 20 yards farther down the hallway. Cage didn't even have to aim, he could just spray bullets down the hall way.

Even if there was a highly trained armed teacher in the hall way he could have been 20 yards away standing in a crowd of students coming out of his classroom with crowds of students coming out of classrooms between him and the shooter. He'd have to spot the shooter through that crowd and hit that individual target without hitting any of the students in the hall way between. An extremely difficult if not impossible shot. Practicing at a gun range doesn't prepare you for this.

Most mass shooters want to die. They have already decided to commit suicide by cop. They just want to take as many people as possible with them. There's an incredible power that comes from deciding to die, there's no fear. The shooter can walk down that hall way spraying bullets without caring if anyone is shooting back. Where as those defending the school want to live. As bullets come towards them the instinct is to duck or hide. It's hard to calmly take aim and fire. The adrenalin kicks in with the fear. Their hand shakes. They really don't want to kill anyone. It's hard to kill someone who deserves it let alone one of the innocent students in the hallway. They are even more careful and slow to fire at the intended target. If some student in the crowed chaotic hallway moves in front of the bullet they are even more reluctant and more careful to take the next shot.

Think carefully about the details. Imagine it in your mind if you were an armed teacher coming out into that hallway and discovering it wasn't a fire drill but an active shooter situation. I think anyone who plays out the details in a step by step fashion telling the full story would realize that arming teachers would rarely if ever be a useful response to school shootings.

Our postmodern neo-Marxists

Peter — Fri, 23 Feb 2018 01:17:28 +0000

In reply to Trump says: I am a nuanced

Our postmodern neo-Marxists can't tolerate an idea that might produce security for students and deter criminals. Insted of discussing it they distort and confuse so they can return to their agenda of attacking our individual rights to further their sick plans for the future. Trump can bypass the fake news media and has the ear of 50 million Americans who won't be herded like those who listen to these commies.

You propose to do this in

rmrd0000 — Thu, 22 Feb 2018 21:45:43 +0000

In reply to The idea is to stop the

You propose to do this in every school? Isn’t it likely that things like fist fights between students could be resolved by gun shots rather than breaking up the fight physically if 10- 20 teachers are now armed. Seems like a recipe for disaster. The more aggressive teachers are the ones more likely to want to be armed.