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I suspect, from seeing enough

barefooted — Wed, 28 Feb 2018 08:36:42 +0000

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I suspect, from seeing enough of them now, that Parkland was just an exceptionally excellent school with great teachers and curricula. Not getting my hopes up on that front....

Though curricula varies greatly, much to many a Democrat's chagrin, you should indeed be getting your hopes up. The amazing Parkland students aren't outliers (if they were, and if you thought so, would you so often declare Millennials the hope for our country?), they've been thrust into the spotlight in an horrific way yet they represent what's been there all along: smart and informed kids.

Back to the point of the article ... seems to me the NYT is not just looking for clicks; they're looking for a variety of them. Perhaps the reputation for being a "liberal" paper has become too tight a fit. Whether that works for them, if that's the plan, remains to be seen.

I haven't even been checking

artappraiser — Wed, 28 Feb 2018 07:36:58 +0000

In reply to From the linked article “We

I haven't even been checking out a lot of the newbies.Judging from the article, I think the critics are right that they've been cluelessly hiring lots of, for want of a better word: bimbos (of both sexes.) On the other hand, I don't know millennial tastes. And that's what they have to go after to keep paying the electric bill. One thing I know: everyone complains about talking heads and op-ed and pundits instead of facts, but from tending to a news junkie addiction for a decade now, what I have seen is that those are always the articles with the highest clicks, for all media, op-ed is where the money is. (And that was fed with the growth of blogging, we all contributed to it.) It has only gotten worse with social media, people share their favorite pundit's latest on Facebook or whatever and the numbers zoom.

I totally agree that we desperately need some outlets to maintain some old-fashioned standards! My ears perked up and I was heartened when I heard one of the Parkland kids talking to Anderson Cooper last night mentioned Walter Cronkite, as in "we need more Walter Cronkite type news" to counter NRA spin. That he even knew the name was amazing. He had clearly learned the difference, none of this "everybody curates their own narrative." I suspect, from seeing enough of them now, that Parkland was just an exceptionally excellent school with great teachers and curricula. Not getting my hopes up on that front....

From the linked article “We

ocean-kat — Wed, 28 Feb 2018 06:50:22 +0000

In reply to “THE NEWSROOM FEELS EMBARRASSED”:

From the linked article “We’ve also seen Bret Stephens write a column about repealing the Second Amendment,” said Sulzberger.

Sulzberger said that in defense of the hire of the right wing columnist. See how eclectic his views are. He's not a traditional conservative. He'll even come out for repealing the Second Amendment. That's not how I read the article. The claim was there were no gun control laws that could stop mass shootings that would pass constitutional muster therefore we should repeal the Second Amendment. I don't believe that's true and he didn't make a good case it was true. There's much we could do to control guns that have passed the constitutional standard in the past and likely would in the future.

Imo the purpose of the article is to stake out a position so extreme that every conservative, moderate, and even the vast majority of liberals would reject it. Hoping that the conclusion reached would be since we can't and don't want to repeal the Second Amendment and nothing less is worth doing we might as well do nothing on gun control at all. All based on the fraudulent argument that reasonable gun control laws that would have a significant effect on gun violence are all unconstitutional.

My problem with conservative writers like Stephens isn't that I disagree with their conservative views but that his arguments to support those views aren't up to the standard I expect from the paper of record. The New York Times.