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maybe I have solved the

artappraiser — Thu, 08 Mar 2018 01:36:22 +0000

maybe I have solved the problem

Hah! Got me thinking, though: dream on, not going to happen, as what usually seems to happen is one of the sides finds a news article that serves as shaky bias confirmation, even unconsciously at times. and then after a few comments, it's let the polemics begin.

Here's the most optimistic

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 07 Mar 2018 21:53:41 +0000

In reply to Maybe you are right. The

Here's the most optimistic man on the Internets...

Maybe you are right. The

moat — Wed, 07 Mar 2018 21:00:22 +0000

In reply to I think you just created a

Maybe you are right. The silence is pretty deafening.
Or, taking a more positive view, maybe I have solved the problem and the matter will never come up again.

Rosemary's Baby might be a

Peter — Wed, 07 Mar 2018 15:09:34 +0000

In reply to Okay, I found Mulvaney's

Rosemary's Baby might be a more accurate description of this creature, the CFPB. Mulvaney is limited in what he can do to the CPFB especially now that it is operating under the constitutional structure it lacked for most of its history. The most he can do now is limit its growth in size and power and any extra unneeded funding would tempt them to spend and expand like all government bureaus do.

Well, blogging with AA tends

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 07 Mar 2018 01:56:00 +0000

In reply to The other thing about the

Well, blogging with AA tends to be more mutual sleuthing, and where there are disagreements, pushes the effort to explain better or find a clearer source.

I can't think of a single person I've persuaded through disagreeing, and it's usually people with similar mindviews latch onto each other, and there it holds. ( unless they too fall away for x or y). Or people find their comfort zones and boundaries and just get along.

Anyway, I like the learning and digging into details and trying to understand real mechanisms and trends - whether agreeable or not, and in 2017 getting a grip on the disagreeable was essential.

Especially when they don't

barefooted — Wed, 07 Mar 2018 01:17:36 +0000

In reply to The other thing about the

Especially when they don't play by the rules.

Actually, I described a style

barefooted — Wed, 07 Mar 2018 01:07:50 +0000

In reply to The criticism leveled at me

Actually, I described a style of debate and ascribed it to commenters like you. It was not a criticism leveled at you personally. That your rhetorical flourish and tendency toward repetitive, argumentative phrasing in order to engage one or more persons in a back-and-forth of your choosing is a useless way to induce productive dialogue is simply my opinion. Nothing more. That I can certainly see why you chose a radio program and a personal blog to express your opinions in a larger realm than Dagblog with the ability to control the boundaries, even as you use the participants at Dag to flesh them out, is simply my perception. Nothing more.

You do what you do, Hal, and we've all seen it long enough to recognize it clearly and to understand that it's intentional on your part. So it's up to us to do our part if we want to continue the ... what is it again? Oh, yes, commentary. With you. Or not. Nothing more.

The other thing about the

moat — Wed, 07 Mar 2018 00:57:01 +0000

In reply to That's why blog commenters

I am glad that you made this distinction. One inescapable quality of the debate process is that there can only be losers or winners according to the rules of engagement it operates within. And the shape of arguments in that register ask those one struggles against to cry uncle when defeated.

It makes disagreeing with other people an extremely labor intensive enterprise.

That's why blog commenters

barefooted — Wed, 07 Mar 2018 00:09:16 +0000

In reply to There is no winner here.

That's why blog commenters aren't debaters in the true sense of the word; we argue opinion without often being penned in by sticking to just the facts, ma'am. We have moderators, but not ones who judge purely on the veracity of an argument vs the opponent's and assign points 'til the assigned end when a winner is decided. All very cold and analytical. Thank the good lord for small favors that blogs (and real world conversations) don't work that way ... though it does lead to messy tails covered in spilled ink that tend to unendingly chase each other.

Hal-lucinating: I urge the

NCD — Tue, 06 Mar 2018 18:02:00 +0000

In reply to If Democrats win but help

Hal-lucinating: I urge the Democrats to pass legislation that benefits us and that makes it more likely that the Democrats will return to dominance.

The Democrats cannot "pass legislation", they cannot even get a Senate or House Committee to debate legislation, [much less] get ANY legislation to the floor for a vote. They are the minority Party in both sides of Congress, and Republicans are in control of what legislation is passed.

It is either gross ignorance, malevolence against the minority Party and/or intentional disinformation meant to create apathy among that very large portion of Americans who are have no understanding of how Congress works yet wonder why Democrats don't "pass good stuff for us" to blather nonsense on and on like this, post after post.