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The 1 graph seems to say

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 13 Mar 2018 07:36:17 +0000

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The 1 graph seems to say Obamacare was a bigger deal than even immigration. And I'm reminded about some big Obamacare announcement a week before the election that seemed to promise costs would go up - like a natural campaign gift for Trump.

Actually, just in case you

artappraiser — Tue, 13 Mar 2018 07:20:07 +0000

In reply to An inconvenient truth:

Actually, just in case you really are interested in finding out why Trump won, these four political experts (self-defined "progressives," I would note) studied up on the topic and data and wrote this essay for the Sunday NYTimes explaining why Trump won:

The Missing Obama Millions

By Sean McElwee (@SeanMcElwee) a co-founder of Data for Progress, Jesse H. Rhodes and Brian F. Schaffner, political scientists at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, and Bernard L. Fraga, a political scientist at Indiana University.

Includes nice charts and stuff and analysis of what issues mattered to which groups of those who stayed home and of those who switched from Obama to Trump.

And Philip Bump @ WaPo followed up with some analysis and commentary on their article on Monday: 4.4 million 2012 Obama voters stayed home in 2016 — more than a third of them black

Bernie @ 2018 rally in AZ:

artappraiser — Mon, 12 Mar 2018 18:49:09 +0000

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Bernie @ March 2018 rally in AZ: guns, favoring the billionaire class, unfair tax laws, health care, DACA, global warming, college tuition.

Hal @ Dagblog: free trade and Clintonomics: bad.

Millennials: what the heck is Clintonomics? I am not interested in history of economics.

Thanks, I'm not interested in

Michael Wolraich — Mon, 12 Mar 2018 18:39:00 +0000

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Thanks, I'm not interested in going down that rabbit hole with you. If you left Trump and Clinton out of it, it might be interesting to discuss the relationship between tariffs and wages (and prices). The article is actually quiet nuanced in its apolitical assessment.

And after he was president

artappraiser — Mon, 12 Mar 2018 18:06:32 +0000

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And after he was president for 10 months, most Americans still didn't agree with him about NAFTA

You realize that in the end, you are making the argument that manipulating the electoral college so that the results of the presidential election end up to the benefit of a small minority of districts is a good thing? Not just that it's a real thing that happened, but that it's a good thing, that you want it to continue to happen until the rest of the country supposedly changes their mind on protectionism.

Furthermore, even if for cynical political reasons alone,I fail to see any wisdom in your advice given that every month more millennials register to vote and more rust belt baby boomers die, and the former are overall strong supporters of free trade. It's like you are continually arguing the 2016 election which in itself was a freaky outlier manipulation thing.

It's one thing to push protectionism ideologically if you believe in it, it's quite another thing to argue that's it's smart politically to push it nationwide. You've got a long row to hoe convincing your fellow citizens. It's not politically smart at all nationwide.

They may have thought Hillary

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 12 Mar 2018 18:03:50 +0000

In reply to I get that lots of people

They may have thought Hillary drank her own urine and ran a pedophilia ring out of a pizza joint. Repeat bullshit long enough, and it takes its toll on the truth.

I just watched this video

artappraiser — Mon, 12 Mar 2018 17:30:12 +0000

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I just watched this video about the United Steelworkers' activity in the PA 18 race, and it's very clear in it that they care almost exclusively about the "right to work" issue and are giving more than full support to Conor Lamb for that reason alone. Tariffs: not so much an issue. Seems like this: forget about tariffs and Trump, not that important, up to each member to decide, Conor Lamb has to win because of "right to work."

I get that lots of people

HSG — Mon, 12 Mar 2018 14:29:39 +0000

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I get that lots of people disagree with me. But enough voters in MI, WI, and PA, including up to 20% or more of Obama voters probably thought, with reason, that free trade had harmed them to swing the election to Trump.

“Notorious” free trader, as

CVille Dem — Mon, 12 Mar 2018 14:15:33 +0000

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“Notorious” free trader, as though that’s a bad thing. News Flash: not everyone agrees with you.

Trump campaigned in favor of

HSG — Mon, 12 Mar 2018 12:04:51 +0000

In reply to An interesting article,

Trump campaigned in favor of tariffs, renegotiating NAFTA, and full-on opposition to the TPP. All of these policies are better for a large number of voters in MI, WI, and PA. Clinton is a notorious free trader.