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750 shot, 1500 total wounded.

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 04 Apr 2018 05:26:00 +0000

In reply to One thing I'd bet on is that

750 shot, 1500 total wounded. How to rinse that down? Imagine this in Paris, South Africa, Uganda, London, India, Ukraine, Las Vegas...Parkland?

pedanticaly true, but as

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 04 Apr 2018 05:21:55 +0000

In reply to Aren’t both Jews and Arabs

pedanticaly true, but as commonly used, "anti-semitic" simply means "anti-Jewish" (though Bibi would like it extended to "anti-Israel")

One thing I'd bet on is that

artappraiser — Tue, 03 Apr 2018 23:14:34 +0000

In reply to Maybe. He's saying some

One thing I'd bet on is that Mossad basically knew all the things he said in the interview before he gave it. Whether they think it's safe to bet on his continued power: another thing.

I just checked Al Jazeera, Qatar is reacting as one would expect, with this analysis piece labeled as a news item:

MBS's Israel remarks' timing 'absolutely worst ever'

Saudi crown prince's comments come just days after killings of 17 Palestinians by Israeli forces during peaceful march.

posted "an hour ago"

Maybe. He's saying some

ocean-kat — Tue, 03 Apr 2018 22:59:56 +0000

In reply to new paradigm in the hood?

Maybe. He's saying some conciliatory things about Israel and some confrontational things about the extreme fundamentalist Islam of Wahhabism. He's virulently anti-Iran and absurd in his rhetoric about them. I'm sure he wants support in what ever he plans to do toward Iran. First I want to see what he does towards moderating Islam in his country and what he wants in exchange for it against Iran.

This USA Today April 3 piece

artappraiser — Tue, 03 Apr 2018 22:57:07 +0000

In reply to new paradigm in the hood?

This USA Today April 3 piece Saudi prince, Arab leaders mute on Palestinian deaths in Gaza. Here's why

mostly covers the same as above, except for these two points in it, worth a quote:

Hostility to Hamas

Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and their allies share Israel’s hostility to Hamas, which governs Gaza. During Israel’s 2014 war with Hamas, “no Arab state responded with reprisals or even rhetoric,” Miller said. “They don’t like Hamas."

and

Frustration with Palestinian leadership

Arab leaders blame a lack of progress toward Mideast peace on Israel as well as on the Palestinian movement divided by two feuding factions — the moderate Palestinian Authority led by aging President Mahmoud Abbas that controls the West Bank, and Hamas, which is labeled a terrorist organization by the United States and Israel.

Arab rulers see Gaza and the West Bank " as a money pit that they continue to support without much result," Miller said.

While Hamas is seen as an obstacle to peace, “Palestinian leadership is directionless, dysfunctional and corrupt,” Miller said.

new paradigm in the hood?

artappraiser — Tue, 03 Apr 2018 21:43:47 +0000

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new paradigm in the hood?

Saudi Crown Prince: Iran's Supreme Leader 'Makes Hitler Look Good'

In a wide-ranging conversation, Prince Mohammed bin Salman also recognized the Jewish people’s right to “their own land.”

By Jeffrey Goldberg @ TheAtlantic.com, April 2

Saudi Prince Says Israelis Have Right to ‘Their Own Land’

By Ben Hubbard @ NYTimes.com, April 3, 2018

Saudi Arabia’s powerful crown prince has said that Israelis “have the right to have their own land” and that formal relations between Israel and the kingdom could be mutually beneficial.

The comments by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman in an interview published on Monday reflected the distinctly warmer tone toward Israel adopted recently by the de facto ruler of a powerful Arab country that once opposed Israel’s right to exist'.

Saudi Arabia and Israel still have no formal relations, and Saudi leaders have historically criticized the Jewish state for its treatment of the Palestinians and for limiting access to Muslim holy sites in Jerusalem.

But the kingdom’s stance toward Israel has changed with the rise of Prince Mohammed, who is 32 and is seeking to overhaul Saudi Arabia’s economy and its place in the world. His words on Monday were actually less harsh toward the Palestinians than reports of his previous statements.

Instead of seeing Israel as an enemy, Prince Mohammed has come to view the Jewish state as an attractive regional economic and technological hub as well as a potential partner in the kingdom’s cold war with Iran.

[....]

Reflecting a divide in the Saudi leadership over how to approach Israel, Prince Mohammed’s father, King Salman, emphasized Palestinian rights in a phone call with Mr. Trump, the Saudi state news service said on Tuesday.

The king restated “the kingdom’s steadfast position towards the Palestinian issue and the legitimate rights of the Palestinian people to an independent state with Jerusalem as its capital,” the king said. He made no mention of Israel.

In the interview, Prince Mohammed also played down the extent of anti-Semitism in Saudi society, which has historically been reinforced by government clerics and textbooks.

“Our country doesn’t have a problem with Jews,” Prince Mohammed said, adding that the Prophet Muhammad married a Jewish woman and that many Jews work in the kingdom [....]

Aren’t both Jews and Arabs

rmrd0000 — Tue, 03 Apr 2018 20:53:53 +0000

In reply to . One of the key lessons

Aren’t both Jews and Arabs Semites?

. One of the key lessons

A Guy Called LULU — Tue, 03 Apr 2018 20:10:36 +0000

In reply to Israel's planned atrocity - why?

. One of the key lessons Israel took from the event, and indeed a focus of its government’s investigative report, was not that Israel should not have massacred the civilians, but rather that it should have done a better job of explaining why it did so.

They have some of the very best Hollywood scriptwriters. They will no doubt pull it off [explaining why] as far as most U.S. people are concerned. There were probably some anti-Semites in that crowd of Palestinians, being that is an excuse for almost anything, even displacing them from their land and killing the ones who object.