dagblog - Comments for "Korea, Madagascar, and Nouveau Colonialism" http://dagblog.com/current-affairs/korea-madagascar-and-noveau-colonialism-249 Comments for "Korea, Madagascar, and Nouveau Colonialism" en Wow. The second article is http://dagblog.com/comment/1315#comment-1315 <a id="comment-1315"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/1287#comment-1287">Food crisis leading to an</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Wow. The second article is particularly chilling.</p></div></div></div> Sun, 23 Nov 2008 22:28:06 +0000 Michael Wolraich comment 1315 at http://dagblog.com Food crisis leading to an http://dagblog.com/comment/1287#comment-1287 <a id="comment-1287"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/current-affairs/korea-madagascar-and-noveau-colonialism-249">Korea, Madagascar, and Nouveau Colonialism</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><blockquote> <p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/nov/22/food-biofuels">Food crisis leading to an unsustainable land grab</a><br /><br />Furthermore, many local communities will be evicted to make way for the foreign takeover. The governments and investors will argue that jobs will be created and some of the food produced will be made available for local communities, but this does not disguise what is essentially a process of dispossession. Lands will be taken away from smallholders or forest dwellers and converted into large industrial estates connected to distant markets.<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/nov/22/food-biofuels-laos">Laos: The resentment rises as villagers are stripped of holdings and livelihood. </a><br /><br />The sabotage is a testament to growing local resentment at the way land is being sold off to big foreign investors with deep pockets. At face value, leasing agricultural concessions looks like a godsend for Laos, a poor country eager to shed its stigmatic designation of "least developed country."</p> </blockquote></div></div></div> Sun, 23 Nov 2008 13:54:43 +0000 Donal comment 1287 at http://dagblog.com It's an idea. I would prefer http://dagblog.com/comment/1217#comment-1217 <a id="comment-1217"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/1216#comment-1216">Maybe you could post a teaser</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>It's an idea. I would prefer to have the discussion at dag, both because I'd like to drive traffic here and because I enjoy the discussions more. But I think that I might annoy the folks at TPM if I post teasers up there all the time. I suppose that I could switch off.</p></div></div></div> Sat, 22 Nov 2008 19:23:43 +0000 Michael Wolraich comment 1217 at http://dagblog.com Maybe you could post a teaser http://dagblog.com/comment/1216#comment-1216 <a id="comment-1216"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/1211#comment-1211">Thanks. That interpretation</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Maybe you could post a teaser in one and a full post in the other.</p></div></div></div> Sat, 22 Nov 2008 19:17:55 +0000 Donal comment 1216 at http://dagblog.com Zimbabwe's story is one of http://dagblog.com/comment/1215#comment-1215 <a id="comment-1215"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/1214#comment-1214">An absolutely fab post,</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Zimbabwe's story is one of the saddest in the world. Congo frustrates me, Darfur upsets me, but like you, Zimbabwe enrages me. The people of Congo and Darfur probably suffer more, but Zimbabwe was, less than a decade ago, the pride of Africa. Mugabe and his cronies have diabolically destroyed their nation and the lives of their people so that they might prosper. Somehow, this seems even worse to me, at least in one way, than ethnic cleansing. It's driven not by tribalism but by pure amoral self-regard.</p></div></div></div> Sat, 22 Nov 2008 19:17:39 +0000 Michael Wolraich comment 1215 at http://dagblog.com An absolutely fab post, http://dagblog.com/comment/1214#comment-1214 <a id="comment-1214"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/current-affairs/korea-madagascar-and-noveau-colonialism-249">Korea, Madagascar, and Nouveau Colonialism</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>An absolutely fab post, Genghis.  I'm with acanuck.  This is not only not good, but is ugly.  There are so many people who have such amazing executive skills, people who run the local NGO organizations, locally nurtured talents and really stunning ones too, that for Daewoo to bring in exploitable labor from SA (South Africa) is itself a claxon for bloody encounters with the locals.  This is worse than simple exploitation, this is exploitation with added toxicity which will only destroy whatever is local and precious and good.  I lived and travelled throughout Africa in 2000 and 2001.  I spent a month in Madagascar and worked tangentially with a local conservation NGO and I absolutely loved the island and its people.  Its flora and fauna are unique.  And the people are, like, totally marvelous as they are in every country I went to in Africa.  I have a visceral hatred of colonialism and its ever recurring brands and many faces, I hate even more its many repurcussions.  I lived and worked in <a title="nana" href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/Antananarivo02.jpg">Anta</a><a title="nana" href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/Antananarivo02.jpg">nana</a><a title="rivo-Renivohitra" href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/Antananarivo01.jpg">rivo-Renivohitra</a> [generally known as Tana] and travelled around to places like Taolagnaro [Fort Dauphin] and Andapa where the majority of the population consists of farmers.  This story makes me livid.  However, what makes me sick and crazy are stories like <a title="this one." href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7714892.stm ">this one</a>.</p></div></div></div> Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:54:01 +0000 Anonymous comment 1214 at http://dagblog.com Second http://dagblog.com/comment/1212#comment-1212 <a id="comment-1212"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/1200#comment-1200">Living in Korea - sounds like</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Second</p></div></div></div> Sat, 22 Nov 2008 17:11:43 +0000 Michael Wolraich comment 1212 at http://dagblog.com Thanks. That interpretation http://dagblog.com/comment/1211#comment-1211 <a id="comment-1211"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/1199#comment-1199">I gather that the project</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Thanks. That interpretation makes more sense and jives with other reports that say "arable land."</p> <p>I made the same United Fruit comparison up at TPM (I think that I may stop cross-posting these post in order to focus the discussion). I agree that the consequences of these deals could range from bad to really bad.</p></div></div></div> Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:55:50 +0000 Michael Wolraich comment 1211 at http://dagblog.com Acanuck has nailed it with http://dagblog.com/comment/1210#comment-1210 <a id="comment-1210"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/1199#comment-1199">I gather that the project</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Acanuck has nailed it with "the agricultural equivalent of strip mining". Labor imported from South Africa to a country full of people desperate for jobs? Naked exploitation is the opposite of development. It was hard to imagine how things could get worse in Madagascar. This is how.</p></div></div></div> Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:50:20 +0000 keke comment 1210 at http://dagblog.com Living in Korea - sounds like http://dagblog.com/comment/1200#comment-1200 <a id="comment-1200"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/1198#comment-1198">This is a really fascinating</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Living in Korea - sounds like a good subject for a blog post.</p></div></div></div> Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:46:38 +0000 Donal comment 1200 at http://dagblog.com