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Diamond and Silk are two

rmrd0000 — Sat, 07 Apr 2018 14:12:19 +0000

In reply to Johnson is obviously free to

Diamond and Silk are two black women who support Donald Trump. They exist. They voice their opinions. It is easy to say that they do not represent a majority opinion found in the black community. They serve a purpose because Trump and Republicans can use them to tell white Trump supporters that Trump has black community support.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/black-women-trump-diamond-silk-headline-cleveland-event-n611811

The official Diamond and Silk website

https://www.diamondandsilkinc.com/

As long as there is one black outlier, they will be used by Trump and the Republicans.

Johnson is obviously free to

rmrd0000 — Sat, 07 Apr 2018 03:22:46 +0000

In reply to Er, don't know what to say,

Johnson is obviously free to express his opinion.

The data can be viewed as showing that Trump benefits from a decline in unemployment that began under Obama.

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/01/trump-takes-undue-credit-black-unemployment/

It is clear that blacks aren’t a monolith. It is also clear that the majority of blacks in the United States do not have a favorable opinion of Donald Trump or Republicans. Pointing out that more black people have positive feelings for Thurgood Marshall then for Clarence Thomas is not claiming to speak for all blacks, but simply stating a fact. Johnson has free speech. His comment will be challenged. Ben Carson was a hero, until he began criticizing Barack Obama. Carson thinks the Pyramids were used for grain storage. He excuses away Trump’s racism and incompetence. Carson has gone from hero to joke in most black households.

Differences of opinion are common in the black community. Booker T Washington vs. W.E.B. DuBois and Martin Luther King Jr. Vs. Malcolm X are two examples. Black Lives Matter rejects much of the political party focus emphasis of an Al Sharpton. Diasagreements are common.

There is no need to whisper about Johnson’s comment. The black community will respond. Cornel West criticized Barack Obama. The response from the black community was not positive. Killer Mike appeared on NRA TV to criticize the Parkland students efforts on gun control. Killer Mike received pushback. Free speech is alive and well in the black community. The problem that Carson, Omarosa, Cornel West, and Killer Mike run into is that they are outliers on some issues. It remains to be seen if Johnson’s comment is considered important enough to generate responses from the black community. If the majority of responses from the black community to his comment about Trump impact on black unemployment is negative, and links to those comments are provided, it is simply a reflection of the bulk of the articles. If only a small number of people support Johnson, then that will be observed.

As it stands now, most reviews don’t give Trump major credit for the continuation of the decrease in Black unemployment.

Polifact gives Trump some credit

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jan/30/donald-trump/donald-trump-partly-correct-rejoinder-jay-z/

Vox rejects a major Trump effect

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/1/18/16902390/trump-black-unemployment-rate-record-decline

ThinkProgress rejects a Trump effect

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-unemployment-black-america-e12eaa60f532/

American Prospect rejects the Trump effect

http://prospect.org/article/setting-record-straight-on-trumps-black-unemployment-boast

American Prospect argues that Presidents don’t matter in unemployment

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-avenue/2018/02/01/who-deserves-credit-for-african-american-employment/

Ditto.

barefooted — Sat, 07 Apr 2018 02:41:50 +0000

In reply to Well said.

Ditto.

Well said.

moat — Sat, 07 Apr 2018 01:18:21 +0000

In reply to I'm not the hugest Obama fan,

Well said.

Er, yeah ... the guy's a

barefooted — Sat, 07 Apr 2018 01:11:00 +0000

In reply to Er, don't know what to say,

Er, yeah ... the guy's a Trump clown:

Johnson has said he has known Trump for years. Johnson met with the then president-elect in 2016 and said he believes the president wants to work with African-Americans and all Americans to boost the economy.

Johnson also spoke again about a job offer he received from Trump. He said he didn't take the unspecified position because he didn't want a government job and not because of the president's policies.

eta: quote from the twitter link arta posted (by the way, do you prefer arta or AA? Noticed you referred to yourself as the former recently, and just want to get it right)

Er, don't know what to say,

artappraiser — Sat, 07 Apr 2018 00:35:29 +0000

In reply to Bernie Sanders Courts Black Voters Anew. But an Obama Reference Stings.

Er, don't know what to say, just feel I should point it out:

“BET founder: Trump's economy is bringing black workers back into the labor force” https://t.co/TtMDfi4bv0
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 6, 2018

Democrats want Democrats to

rmrd0000 — Fri, 06 Apr 2018 22:59:19 +0000

In reply to I'm not the hugest Obama fan,

Democrats want Democrats to win because as flawed as they may be, Democrats are preferable to any Republican. Democrats May disagree, but we will vote for the Democrat. Sanders wants to mold the party to his image. He did not care what blacks in the audience thought, he came to mold them in his image. The country is in crisis. Removing Republicans from office is a first step in saving the country. Sanders primary goal is transforming the Democratic Party. If his candidates lose, he will excuse the loss away as the fault of the party not supporting his candidate. I will vote for the Democrat. Sanders is not a Democrat.

I'm not the hugest Obama fan,

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 06 Apr 2018 21:38:06 +0000

In reply to CNN’s Bakaru Sellers gives a

I'm not the hugest Obama fan, but Bernie can speak "truth to pwer" without worrying about his words, while Obama couldn't even wear a tan suit for Easter without getting major shit. Bernie can dream of socialism for all, but Obama trying to bail out banks and car companies and otherwise clean up Bush's negligence while being careful not to help people directly too much (his direct rebate went unannounced, which lost him easy votes) just got him labeled a socialist from Kenya. I have trouble judging what he should have done.

There was a nice clip where they asked MLK why blacks alone among American immigrants couldn't assimilate. He noted no other people had been chained on American soil for 240 years, that when they were giving away land out West to new white immigrants they were just releasing black slaves with nothing, to fend for themselves (absurdly to cut a deal with the same racist bastards they'd just been cut free from - that worked well). And that their complexion remained a point of hate. But he didn't go far enough. We know that often when a woman is in the office, the dynamic turns to who will sleep with her. When there's a black person's involved, it's often been distrust and contempt and hatred, assumption of a criminal or lesser being, that opening the door isn't good enough, they have to prove themselves all over again, day after day, and one slipup can screw it up forever.

I don't know why Sanders couldn't drop his ego for a moment, but for blacks there's no dropping being black, no days off, no time when being black isn't still a burden, doesn't still involve having to watch one's step, or where an anniversary for one of your few great heroes doesn't turn into a party for somebody else. Shame he didn't get it.

CNN’s Bakaru Sellers gives a

rmrd0000 — Fri, 06 Apr 2018 20:44:25 +0000

In reply to No problem! ;-)

CNN’s Bakari Sellers gives a eulogy for Sanders ( who is not a Democratic Party member) 2020

Y’all can defend Bernie all you want. On #MLK50 his lack of self awareness and arrogance in dismissing #44, is wild.

Bernie 2020 died 4/4/18.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Bakari_Sellers/status/981879036291973120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbanterm.com%2Fissues%2F2018%2F04%2F06%2Fmembers-only-bernie-sanders-flippant-remarks-about-obama-prove-he-cannot-run-in-2020%2F

Edit to add:

Bernie brings baggage. He should have prepared an MLK day speech that in no way could be taken as a slight to Obama. Second, Sanders ignores the fact that Democrats have been winning elections, even those who ran without his support. Democrats need unity. Bernie brings conflict. Sanders will spend time attacking Democrats rather than focusing on Republicans.

No problem! ;-)

barefooted — Fri, 06 Apr 2018 18:34:50 +0000

In reply to Sorry

No problem! ;-)