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I realized that the above

moat — Mon, 16 Apr 2018 20:01:28 +0000

In reply to It is interesting that you

I realized that the above could benefit from some clarification.
The repetition I referred to is a marketing technique called "artificial familiarity" by some. The idea is to introduce terms and qualities that become part of the environment and accepted as such through them being heard frequently. What makes this message different from an invitation to squeeze Charmin is that the product being sold is represented as something being rejected by its would be market. The use of the technique in wartime is to sell a certain meaning and perspective of the conflict to the enemy.
In the context of, say, Tokyo Rose, there was an actual war with real soldiers who were being addressed. In this case, none of the many conflicts bear any resemblance to the one being marketed. That disconnect is what gives it a PoMo generator quality. But the purpose of the algorithm is to degrade discourse as a tool of criticism, not persuade people to change their minds.
As Roland Barthes said: "there is no longer any delay between naming and judging."

And do note I watched a

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:32:10 +0000

In reply to I watched a discussion

And do note I watched a similar debate between Buckley and Chomsky, and thought Chomsky came across lightweight. But I'd bet MLK could have run circles around Buckley, and imagine RFK would have done better as well. Anyway, shows like Meet The Press have gotten dumbed down, but we have blogs like this yo make up for it, so let's use it properly - up your game.

Really? And thus your "Red

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:28:01 +0000

In reply to I watched a discussion

Really? And thus your "Red Queen" over and over? Didn't you notice extensive argument between the Hillary prog-centrists vs Bernie prog-leftists, while the Reoublicans lined up to invoke tax cuts, no abortionists on the courts, "lock her up" over an email server, and more tax cuts? Fiscal conservatism with some standards in Buckley's day has given way to an odd cult of personality, where relugious evangelists cheer on a multi-divircing cheater with porn starlets who spouts hateful violence towards foreigners with such gems as "shithole countries" and "rapists".

Instead of giving such unsubstantiated broadbrush generalities, please give some specifics and actual examples and evidence for your claims, or we just end up back at your "they're bad, we're (mostly) good" posturing, along with your continual slur expressions like "groupthink".

(If you can't clarify your own logic, I'll go ahead and clarify it for you - this *has* persisted long enough, as Oceankat rightly notes)

I watched a discussion

Peter — Mon, 16 Apr 2018 14:41:35 +0000

In reply to I would suggest you start

I watched a discussion between William F Buckley and Saul Alinksy filmed in '67 and quickly saw the difference in how the game is played today compared with then. There isn't room for long uninterupted dialogues since the Left has moved to post-modern post truth groupthink true beliefs. Some of the Right have moved beyond conspiracy theories and try to enguage in real discussions but are rewarded with only diversions to other subjects and repetative talking points.

Size of retainer

moat — Sun, 15 Apr 2018 22:50:20 +0000

In reply to There's a song in that last

Size of retainer
to muzzle entertainers
does not pay my bills.

I cannot stop all the broads
without multiple bank frauds.

You use snowflake to insult

ocean-kat — Sun, 15 Apr 2018 20:53:05 +0000

In reply to I use snowflake mostly to

You use snowflake to insult us. It's a term popularized by the provocateurs on the right to insult liberals. You get insulted in retaliation for constantly insulting people here. It's a poor solution to a problem. It degrades the dialog. I think that's what you want and that's why you provoke it by starting it with insults in every one of your posts. I don't want to be a moderator and no one here wants me to be one. If I were I would clearly inform that there will be no censorship of your arguments but insults are not allowed. Then I would delete every one of your posts that insult people. If you won't make your arguments without insulting us there is no place for you here, imo.

As usual with provocateurs who have as their sole purpose to insult they constantly escalate. So you've moved from "snowflake" to calling us "simpletons" and to personal insults by saying I am "thick as a brick." There was nothing even remotely insulting in my posts until you directly insulted me. Do not pretend you don't come here to insult us. Every one here sees through that lie.

I would suggest you start

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 15 Apr 2018 18:11:05 +0000

In reply to I use snowflake mostly to

I would suggest you start your posts with the Snowflake stuff, and would repectfully request you attempt to engage your audience rather than provoke. Everybody who's ever posted here thinks they're right and a ton of people wrong - it goes with the turf. But our level of intelligent debate about politics has some distinct lows, and it would simply be nice if we could up our game.

I use snowflake mostly to

Peter — Sun, 15 Apr 2018 17:13:39 +0000

In reply to If you look at my past

I use snowflake mostly to describe a group or group actions. Plenty of name calling and crude comparisons are directed at me but i've developed a thick skin and some people here seem unable to take as good as they give. I do respond to individual comments sharpely when someone is blowing smoke and their ignorance or arrogance needs rebuffing. Promoting guilt by association or projection of guilt for unmade charges is the type of deiant dangerous behavior i will get in your face about whether it insults tou or not.

Ocean, I just wanted to chime

CVille Dem — Sun, 15 Apr 2018 14:45:33 +0000

In reply to I'm not like that, maybe I

Ocean, I just wanted to chime in and say that I always enjoy your posts and usually learn from them. Peter is unworthy of any responses, IMOP, and I think it’s ok for him to write his drivel. It is only when we respond that he gets whatever it is that he is looking for.

At the old tpm, we used to respond to trolls with recipes. It’s not worth the bother to do that but I think ignoring him/her is best.

I'm not like that, maybe I

ocean-kat — Sun, 15 Apr 2018 03:50:59 +0000

In reply to Same here, good description.

I'm not like that, maybe I wish I was, but I'm a fighter. I always have been. I'm a little guy, just 5' 4" and skinny but I've always been the one to stand up for the little guy or girl. I was always the one who would confront the person in the work place who made the sexist or racist jokes. I've had this attitude that I was beat up so much in jr. high school that I just didn't give a shit anymore. I've embraced from a young age the cliche that all it takes for evil to succeed is for good people to do nothing and I was determined I would never be silent. When I or what I believe in is attacked I don't just defend, I go on the offense.

There are several reasons for this but one powerful reason was a realization I had as a young teen. My paternal grandmother was Jewish. She married a Catholic man. Neither were very serious adherents to their religion so when they couldn't agree on what religion to give their son they gave him neither. He became a Lutheran when he married my mother. I was raised Lutheran and we never really talked about my Jewish grandmother's religion. We didn't avoid it, it just wasn't important enough to discuss. I'm not "Jewish" in any way. I never experienced any anti-semitism. At a certain point I had learned enough, studied enough, read enough to come to the realization that I would likely have thought of myself as a good German Lutheran but the Nazis would have come and picked me up. The Holocaust wasn't just theoretical for me it was visceral. I was already on a liberal path but that experience gave me an added push to always stand up to bigotry, sexism, and hatred. The determination that I would always stand up and speak up for what I believed.