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That's why I post anon - to

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 02 Jun 2018 13:11:19 +0000

In reply to She's got more troubles from

That's why I post anon - to keep my Senate race & Wall Street trading career intact. Shit/piss/fuck/cunt/motherfucker/blowjob/h.e. double toothpicks... like that old song, "sending all my Tourette's 2 you...."

She's got more troubles from

artappraiser — Sat, 02 Jun 2018 06:38:19 +0000

In reply to Joy Reid attack: Fake News turns to hacking blog archives

She's got more troubles from more digging into archives. What that makes me think: in this day and age, we just have to get more used to the idea that public figures truly can change and grow, it's what they do now that matters, not their past. There is a reason that in other eras artists and writers might choose to burn what is often labeled their "juvenalia.":

https://t.co/xMBC51tKn4
— Peter Khoury (@pkhoury_nyt) June 1, 2018

And yes, there's also that.people sometimes do unscrupulous things to climb to the top of this or that ladder.

Joy Reid fans are willing to

rmrd0000 — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 02:22:12 +0000

In reply to Joy Reid attack: Fake News turns to hacking blog archives

Joy Reid fans are willing to overlook signs of a coverup. Reid confronts Trump and discusses racism. Trump is a liar and a racist. He maintains his 40%. Reid’s fans will stick by her because she is on their team.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/joy-reid-hacking-scandal_us_5ae4ab77e4b055fd7fcc3ec2

Yeah, it's already helping me

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 29 Apr 2018 09:51:18 +0000

In reply to mho, appropriate venue for

Yeah, it's already helping me separate fantasy from fantasy - one of our critical news outlets.

BTW, don't shy away from The Smoking Gun piece - very long, but worth it.

mho, appropriate venue for

artappraiser — Sun, 29 Apr 2018 07:11:55 +0000

In reply to Joy Reid attack: Fake News turns to hacking blog archives

mho, appropriate venue for coverage of this story, The Hollywood Reporter:

Joy Reid says she’s “genuinely do not believe” she wrote those homophobic statements unearthed in her old blog but admits they don't seem to have been hacked. https://t.co/54krUqtfP9
— Hadas Gold (@Hadas_Gold) April 28, 2018

You don't have to convince me

artappraiser — Fri, 27 Apr 2018 20:46:03 +0000

In reply to What I don't see is a clear

You don't have to convince me, for one, probably the only conservative media argument I am very sympathetic to is the one that goes: political correctness sucks. It works like this: in trying to defeat bullies, become bullies.I just don't like bullies. Common sense judging basic human decency works better for me.

What I don't see is a clear

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 27 Apr 2018 07:12:00 +0000

In reply to I didn't read this in full,

What I don't see is a clear list of a few "this is something I didn't write" items.

If it's that hard to pick out, then it doesn't matter anyway.

And yeah, not only are we "evolving" on issues, I also take questionable points of view to delve into matters and elucidate uncomfortable contradictions or unobvious ways of looking at things.

There are good reasons why I use a pseudonym to write. Just yesterday on Twitter some guy (gal?) with 1500 followers just completely reversed a couple of innocuous tweets I made and for the life of him couldn't go back and re-read to figure out where he went off the rails. (sometimes I'm subtle and cryptic, but this time not so much). Multiply this by a million people who can find some particular statement offensive, and then launch a campaign to get you banned or shut down or fired....

Yeah, there was another tweet about a week ago where I made a joke (on myself - taking what he said he hated, and ironically folding it back) that the recipient took at face value, with an "I don't do that" response - and suddenly I had a handful of people liking his response to me. This was a trivial incident, but I can just imagine someone with more followers would suddenly get a storm of angry dissenters, people who didn't even bother to read and understand what they wrote (or did, but say like with some of the gay comments, there are 20 or 100 shades of whether people find stuff offensive or not).

I remember when "that's so gay" was just a common, not angry expression-du-jour used by lots of people just as "sike" or "rad" or "homey" or what-not gained prominence - used by gays as well, if I recall correck (Flav reference), just like "gaydar" et al. Sure, people unused to gay relationships might go or have gone "ewww" at the thought, just like my thoughts 12 years ago to a gay friend describing douching was "TMI", but it's not that different from reading Diary of a Hitman or whatever as a kid with this guy & some nympho who'd screw & douche & screw & douche... a bit of different context and it's "intriguing" or "exciting", elsewise "disgusting" - we're all Jr High kids still to some extent, which is fine - or should be.

Anyway, like with this professor couple that got fired for another campus, our society provides some tools for mob flashes that aren't very pretty. The idea that a politician would willingly go out and deliver the thoughtful pieces that an RFK or MLK did 50 years ago, expecting people to think about it, to internalize it? Not really going to happen - torches, virtual or real, are way too plentiful these days. 140/280 chars is relatively safe to then deny and disavow - anything longer and you're creating a permanent record for denouncing and sending to the re-education camps. I was uncomfortable with the digging into things Bernie wrote about rape or child sex back in the 70's, even when it was "concern trolling" - he was obviously just playing with ideas, not trying to start a commune based on child abuse and sex slaves, and somewhere we used to believe that thinking out of the box brought good rewards - just now, we have a box around that box just to be sure we don't go *too* far.

I didn't read this in full,

artappraiser — Fri, 27 Apr 2018 06:42:53 +0000

In reply to Joy Reid attack: Fake News turns to hacking blog archives

Cavaet: I didn't read this in full, just skimmed it, because as I said, I just don't think it's that important what she opined in the past, especially after apologies on topic. But just posting it for those more interested:

‘SIGNIFICANT EVIDENCE’Claims by Joy Reid’s Cybersecurity Expert Fall Apart

The Daily Beast investigated the MSNBC host’s claims that someone hacked her old blogs to make her appear homophobic and found that the evidence provided crumbles under scrutiny.

By Kevin Poulsen @ DailyBeast.com, 04.26.18 10:00 PM ET

We spent the last few months

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 26 Apr 2018 20:33:00 +0000

In reply to Phillip Bump @ WaPo on your

We spent the last few months watching our tech giants crash and burn, showing they were clueless or deceptive or both, and definitety money grubbing and in not too much of a hurry to come clean, and yet when something like this happens, the tendency is to immediately side with tech, because technology doesn't make mistakes.... except sometimes... okay maybe more often than that.. but not a lot. well, maybe a lot, but not too much a lot, just the necessary part of a lot...

She apologized before, why

rmrd0000 — Thu, 26 Apr 2018 20:28:45 +0000

In reply to That burningbird.net article

She apologized before, why hire someone to investigate a hack now? Why lie?

I’ll wait for a more thorough review

I remember the media attacking Shirley Sherrod and then having to back off.

I trust Joy Reid more than I trust Glenn Greenwald.