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I'm afraid yes, the husband

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 20:07:01 +0000

In reply to But you got me thinking: is

I'm afraid yes, the husband or male defender stepping in is still an important part of the equation in many instances. Even with the Harvey Weinstein, the strong outspoken (and already successful) partner was a help to several. As long as power is largely defined in men's term - which certainly hasn't been overturned by any means - part will be goon protection. Nevertheless, if some basic standards get installed, women might not need to rely on male intervention so much.
And I am curious about this Incel tag, which has quickly turned into a grave insult - sounds like it could include the gentlemen friends you mention, except by recent definition it's only hateful racist misogynist murderous male bastards who are in this group, which seems patently absurd, but it's the internet... And to read the comments, sexual desire is just a want,not a real need, so they should just stuff it rather than society trying to figure out how to improve on loneliness. (masturbation was helpfully offered as a cure-all substitute by folks thinking out of the box).

Ok, you did it, you forced me

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 18:39:54 +0000

In reply to I'm with you. But then I'm

Ok, you did it, you forced me to watch. Kind of held together for 7 minutes, then further downhill ( I didn't make it much further). A few of her jokes hold together on paper, but her voice makes a tough sell.

Still, I don't quite see the point of this - it's like Joe McCarthy mated with Benedict Arnold, and you decide the best response is an evening out joking about how butt ugly the offspring is, yuck yuck.

But you got me thinking: is

artappraiser — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 16:58:40 +0000

In reply to "Joe & Mika: when MeToo works

But you got me thinking: is it really MeToo when the husband threatens to punch out the guy insulting his feminist wife? How does the chivalry thing fit in here? Wimmins are supposed to end up empowered, not needing a chivalrous protector. I think about that a lot cause I've got guy friends of boomer age who admit being confused by it all. And it's so clear why they are: they are the classic shy guy perfect gentlemen who were always afraid to talk to a woman or even kiss a hand much less anything else. I don't know how to explain it to them except to say: geez you got nothing to worry about, you have no idea how a lot of guys act, you're not the part of what this is all about. (Not that Joe is one of the gentleman types....)

I'm with you. But then I'm

artappraiser — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 16:49:35 +0000

In reply to My problem was that TO ME she

I'm with you. But then I'm pretty picky. I think SNL over the decades mostly sets a very high standard for political comedy and I am disappointed a lot by others in comparison. Except for Baldwin as Trump, I think he's very mediocre, there are a lot better Trump impersonations out there, like the guy on The President Show. Read an essay by someone recently that panned Baldwin as just being too angry in his approach and that's why it falls flat, I agree.

But then I thought Colbert wasn't funny slamming Bushies way back at another one of these dinners and I recall lots of members at TPMCafe getting angry at me for saying that. The problem there to me is that people start thinking pure political warfare and not comedy, where you have to support anyone on your side whether their comedy is lousy or not. That's not the way it works, that's not the way it works for comedy to get people thinking and changing their minds, they have to be good entertainment first and foremost, to a big audience, not just to the partisan audience else people just change the channel, like you did here.

Criticism of entertainers makes for better entertainment...be a tough audience, we got every right and it also happens to be smart politics if it's also political comedy.

Back to the start: I agree with you, Wolf was just plain bad, painfully bad as in bombing (the classic "bombing" for a comedian we've all seen depicted in so many movies), not funny, not a single thing she said while I watched seemed funny. Just like you, I got bored, I changed the channel.

Overall, I think the guy last

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 16:39:00 +0000

In reply to HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH

Overall, I think the guy last year did a bit better*, but that means "nicer/smoother", and after a year of this crap, I'm happy when the sodomy hurts. And of course the Trump gang feels more enabled and in-tune beating up on a woman - their sweet spot, even better than minorities (now that Trump's found one he thinks he likes).

*Wolf's performance makes much more sense as a whole, rather than the cherry-picked outrage points, but then again, that's why they cherry-pick. I also liked the line about McConnell getting his neck circumcised, while Priebus took his diss like a man (getting dissed by a woman).

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH

Richard Day — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 16:34:51 +0000

In reply to "Joe & Mika: when MeToo works

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH

Yeah, I agree, a lot of info down that rabbit hole.

I think that even I could write some musical demonstrating the relations between Joe & Mika and the Trump beginning in 2015

One more thing:

I really really feel that Jon Stewart would have creamed this thing. I have no idea if he was in a mood to do so; he certainly could not give a damn about the money (like Behar), but he would have killed it as they say..