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MSNBC will host a townhall on

rmrd0000 — Tue, 22 May 2018 02:48:26 +0000

MSNBC will host a townhall on Everyday Racism in America on Tuesday May 29th. This is the day Starbucks closes its stores to have sensitivity training. Perhaps some functional ideas will be expressed during the two hour event.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/msnbc-presents-town-hall-event-everyday-racism-america

If you are black and not

rmrd0000 — Mon, 21 May 2018 19:25:12 +0000

In reply to Yes, chilling indeed.

If you are black and not focused on race, you are brain dead.

Yes, chilling indeed.

AmericanDreamer — Mon, 21 May 2018 19:20:21 +0000

In reply to People want to think that

Yes, chilling indeed.

Thanks for your links and for correcting mine. (I thought as well about posting the one I actually ended up posting.)

People want to think that

rmrd0000 — Mon, 21 May 2018 15:26:05 +0000

In reply to "We can't avoid the subject

People want to think that things have improved regarding race. This despite the GOP and the Klan working hard to roll back the clock. Blacks focus on race because it is a survival mechanism. You have to realize what is going on.

The data on the impact of racism on birth statics in the black community is chilling

NYT

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/11/magazine/black-mothers-babies-death-maternal-mortality.html

NPR

https://www.npr.org/2017/12/07/568948782/black-mothers-keep-dying-after-giving-birth-shalon-irvings-story-explains-why

Edit to add:

Corrected link to the WaPo article

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/we-cant-avoid-the-subject-of-race-because-were-never-able-to-leave-it-behind/2018/05/15/9bbf6a46-5541-11e8-9c91-7dab596e8252_story.html?utm_term=.25ed848cc4ce

"We can't avoid the subject

AmericanDreamer — Mon, 21 May 2018 14:46:43 +0000

In reply to This Ain't Starbucks

"We can't avoid the subject of race because we're never able to leave it behind", Courtland Milloy opinion piece, WaPo May 15: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2018/05/21/want-to...

No, if I see a stranger

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 19 May 2018 20:43:35 +0000

In reply to It is not apples and oranges.

No, if I see a stranger carrying boxes out of a residential house in the day, having been broken into before during the day, I may call the police, especially if I don't feel comfortable confronting them. This is the part of Trayvon that got short shrift from 1 side, whereas the dark Indian man walking on the sidewalk in Alabama did 0 to arouse suspicion and the woman who reported him lied about him peering into garages. Yes, difference in race increases suspicion, and I'm sure some black homeowners wondered a few times what the hell I was doing in their neighborhood, but calling the police to check me out would have been unwise for them and I'm sure they knew it (though the police made sure to stop my wife and tell her to get thw hell out a dodgy black neighborhood).

The makeup of juries is prone to heavy selection distortion, something like the most gerrymandered voting districts (for one, poorer less educated people are less likely to get off jury duty.) Whites voting for Trump *may* be racist, but they may simply be sick of unchecked immigration and liberals have trouble accepting their valid concerns. This has little to do with stop-and-frisk or redlining or whatever in terms of harrassing, tasering, choking and killing blacks beyond what any violations if they occurred might justify.

Anyway, we already talk past each other enough. No need for round 389.

I would suspect the same. I

barefooted — Sat, 19 May 2018 18:48:32 +0000

In reply to I’ll let you guys talk and

I would suspect the same. I'd suspect that other points of view from other paths walked are addressed as well.

I’ll let you guys talk and

rmrd0000 — Sat, 19 May 2018 18:41:11 +0000

In reply to The article to which I linked

I’ll let you guys talk and agree among yourselves.

Edit to add:

I would suspect that if there are honest discussions about race, some of the points that I make are addressed.

The article to which I linked

barefooted — Sat, 19 May 2018 18:30:25 +0000

In reply to There are different

The article to which I linked, rm, is about finding and implementing new ways to communicate with and expand our approaches to each other - specifically, in this case, on the job. In what way does your comment address that?

It is not apples and oranges.

rmrd0000 — Sat, 19 May 2018 18:29:51 +0000

In reply to More mixing apples and

It is not apples and oranges. It is part of the collective experience of blacks. The differences in how the judicial system treats blacks. Jury willingness to imprison Blacks is inseparable from tendencies to vote for Republicans who are willing to support racist policies. It is all part and parcel of a white supremacist system. We have daily stories of whites calling police because they fear black bodies. Police are viewed as part of a discriminatory system. Prosecutors, judges, and juries are included as part of the same ideology. Presidential decisions are also emblematic of the same system. Not apples and oranges, just apples.