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A bit of a nothing burger

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 22 May 2018 06:22:08 +0000

In reply to PAUL KRUGMAN, May 21: What’s

A bit of a nothing burger from Paul. Greece's problems are from cooking the books, a 2-pony economy in a modern competitive world, and 0 social reforms. Italy's can be traced more to Berlusconi than anything else. Czechs have increased Russian influence despite no Euro, and Slovaks/Hungarians have always been more strident Fascists - not news. Brexit and Catalonia's campaign were partially fueled by Russian meddling. Austerity has played a bad role (ignoring Greece) and a Euro complicates ecin policy but promotes integration/harmony.

The much bigger issue is distributing wealth and work even as the EU clusters. Since Krugman won a Nobel fir clustering theory, it's strange he doesn't note it, but these are human clusters *without* the firms, I.e. the vacuum left behind the clusters he won his Nobel for, which was describing a success, not diagnosing and providing solutions for structural market failures - a tougher task.

PAUL KRUGMAN, May 21: What’s

artappraiser — Tue, 22 May 2018 02:10:35 +0000

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PAUL KRUGMAN, May 21: What’s the Matter With Europe?

A discredited elite and dark forces rising. Sound familiar?

[....] by the early years of this century Europeans were in many ways better off than Americans. Unlike us, they had guaranteed health care, which went along with higher life expectancy; they had much lower rates of poverty; they were actually more likely than we were to be gainfully employed during their prime working years.

But now Europe is in big trouble. So, of course, are we. In particular, while democracy is under siege on both sides of the Atlantic, the collapse of freedom, if it comes, will probably happen here first. But it’s worth taking a break from our own Trumpian nightmare to look at Europe’s woes, some but not all of which parallel ours [....]

Don't necessarily agree with everything therein, but sharing it because I think it's on topic.

I find fault with this in

artappraiser — Mon, 21 May 2018 01:45:20 +0000

In reply to Right virus thinkers: Overton liberals are vanishing

I find fault with this in that I think it is backward thinking presuming the parties will always stay the way they were during boomers' lifetimes. I think the old Overton window has been shattered and that Trump is a catalyst. But it is not just him, it's happening allover the world that political parties are breaking up along new lines and fronts.

It wasn't so long ago that we had very different political parties in this country, two of them bearing the same names of parties of today, but not the same at all, and there were also others. In that context, I actually think it's kind of hidebound thinking to expect that they will stay the same with only a slight shift of an Overton window here and there. Times they are a changing, both new coalitions and breaking apart of old ones are overdue to happen. From all the polls I've read on it, most Millennials don't give a damn if you are a Republican or a Democrat, but do care about where pol is on the conservative to liberal spectrum on individual issues. And whether synchronicity or serendipity, the internet affords the "buyer" the knowledge of where each pol is on individual issues.

Indeed, thanks.

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 20 May 2018 15:21:57 +0000

In reply to This may be the link you

Indeed, thanks.

This may be the link you

rmrd0000 — Sun, 20 May 2018 14:42:27 +0000

In reply to Right virus thinkers: Overton liberals are vanishing

This may be the link you wanted

https://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2018/05/the-overton-window-at-work-by-tristero.html