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Whether "real" or not,

barefooted — Sun, 03 Jun 2018 22:45:48 +0000

Whether "real" or not, questions about her mental health have been around for years - largely fed by her own statements regarding multiple personalities and over-prescribing of "hallucinogens" to treat various and sundry other issues. You can google the links if you'd like. She does have friends, though, including Bill Maher, Jimmy Kimmel and John Goodman who have come to her defense before just as they are doing now; not to defend her rants (or whatever word you choose) but to explain it. Frankly I'm just totally over it - and the Sam Bee thing, too.

Jesus, he's just saying she's

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 03 Jun 2018 22:29:00 +0000

In reply to Moore argues that Barr is

Jesus, he's just saying she's had a shitload of problems, she's fucked up, but she's not our biggest enemy. Michael likely could have delivered Hillary's deplorables line and make it effective, stripping off a decent percentage of Trump's fanbase. He's not trying to rub salt into wounds or pull out all the historical grievances in every exchange. And that's not how persuasion works, so why would he? He's not Ted Cruz or Sean Hannity.

What Moore doesn't want to

ocean-kat — Sun, 03 Jun 2018 20:32:38 +0000

In reply to You make a good point, PP,

What Moore doesn't want to say and what I think is the most important reason for the divide between the republican base and the democrats and liberals is the republican base mostly doesn't know the facts and usually has them wrong. Sometimes it's simple misdiagnosing of the cause of their problems. Other times it's ridiculous conspiracy theories. We're no longer having a debate on policy differences. We're disagreeing on the facts we need to use to formulate that policy. Maher just had a good bit on this topic.

You make a good point, PP,

artappraiser — Sun, 03 Jun 2018 19:34:50 +0000

In reply to One thing people forget is we

You make a good point, PP, that Moore often thoughtfully holds his fire until he can say something well with punch and with subtlety at the same time!

Comes to mind that since the Bush years,even though Moore got successfully labelled by the right media machine as a "snowflake" and a raging liberal, he is really not that. He's actually got a lot of Bannon-style MAGA to him as to "the forgotten white underclass" and the anti-big-corporatism. Just because he hangs with and utilizes some elites and some Hollywood liberals doesn't mean he is one and the same. Actually, he often surprises. I remember now one strong surprise, I saw him being interviewed on Lou Dobbs old CNN show and when Dobbs thanked him for coming on, he said "no, it's an honor!" like he was a fan. I think he really does "get" the Trump fan and Roseanne and Bannon cohort, they are his main interest going back to "Roger and Me". He's always trying to make this cohort see the error of their ways, is all, that the answer to their troubles is not on the right, but the left (including just not on economy and jobs but on things like gun culture.) Does it so much better than Bernie?

Moore argues that Barr is

rmrd0000 — Sun, 03 Jun 2018 19:23:37 +0000

In reply to One thing people forget is we

Moore argues that Barr is mentally ill. The American Psychiatric Association does not recognize racism as a mental illness. The organization does recognize the impact that white supremacy and racism has on creating PTSD in black patients.

https://www.psychiatry.org/news-room/apa-blogs/apa-blog/2017/10/racism-and-mental-health

At one point, following killings in the Civil Rights era, a group of black psychiatrists proposed that racism was a mental illness. The proposal was rejected.

https://www.cheatsheet.com/health-fitness/is-racism-a-mental-health-disorder-inside-the-mind-of-a-white-supremacist.html/?a=viewall

The counter argument is that racism is purely a cultural phenomenon.

http://www.yesmagazine.org/peace-justice/stop-using-mental-illness-to-explain-white-supremacy-20170817

Most racists are high functioning making labeling them mentally ill more difficult.

http://www.newsweek.com/alt-right-racism-mental-illness-psychiatry-personality-disorder-652273

A psychiatric diagnosis would create a get out of jail free card.

Kanye West is a Trump supporter. There are suspicions that Kanye suffers from mental illness. If Barr is mentally ill and West is mentally, what is the message sent about Trump supporters?

One thing people forget is we

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 03 Jun 2018 07:58:07 +0000

In reply to My essay on Roseanne Barr and

One thing people forget is we largely let the right convince us to sideline Michael Moore for "being too extreme", yet he's often the most powerful, coherent voices on the left. I don't always agree with him, but when he speaks it usually sends some kind of thrill up my spine. Bromance some? better than our current brotesque.

My essay on Roseanne Barr and

artappraiser — Sat, 02 Jun 2018 22:26:48 +0000

In reply to Michael Moore: y'aint seen nuttin yet, sumtin never gonna forget

My essay on Roseanne Barr and the difference between her and Trump: https://t.co/wkRtBQAdpE pic.twitter.com/GlbncubKHh
— Michael Moore (@MMFlint) June 2, 2018

p.s. as in "demagogue in

artappraiser — Thu, 31 May 2018 17:55:50 +0000

In reply to Pretty amazing video clip.

p.s. as in "demagogue in training"

Pretty amazing video clip.

artappraiser — Thu, 31 May 2018 17:05:12 +0000

In reply to Michael Moore: y'aint seen nuttin yet, sumtin never gonna forget

Pretty amazing video clip. This is the thought that hit me immediately: Trump was interested in both Moore's and Roseanne's appeal and eventually took a lot of marketing ideas from both of them.