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My Sunday look at 12 years of

artappraiser — Sat, 23 Jun 2018 23:31:23 +0000

In reply to Last Dreamer Dies, Dream of Legalization Unrealized

My Sunday look at 12 years of failure & failure & failure on immigration bills.
“Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was,” McHeny says.
How did we get here?https://t.co/d2QgoGVIop
— Paul Kane (@pkcapitol) June 23, 2018

White House walks back Trump

artappraiser — Sat, 16 Jun 2018 07:18:26 +0000

In reply to Curiously, anti-immigration

White House walks back Trump's rejection of immigration compromise

By Julie Grace Brufke @ TheHIll.com- 06/15/18 02:06 PM EDT

President Trump in fact supports both of the House GOP immigration bills expected to receive votes next week and misspoke earlier Friday when he said that he would oppose a compromise measure between centrists and conservatives, a White House official told The Hill.

"Yes, we fully support both the Goodlatte bill and the Leadership bill. The President misunderstood the question this morning on Fox News," the source said in an email. "He was commenting on the discharge petition/dreamers bill — not the new package. He would 100 percent sign either Goodlatte or the other bill."

Centrists had tried to use a discharge petition to force leadership to move on four different immigration proposals [....]

Sounds to me like: don't listen to what he says, until something passes, then he'll be taking credit for whatever it is, that you should listen to.

Interesting splits in Trump

artappraiser — Fri, 15 Jun 2018 11:25:01 +0000

In reply to Curiously, anti-immigration

Interesting splits in Trump voters on immigration policy in Pew polls from late 2016--on several things, they countered Trump/Bannon extremes, this is probably why Trump played with different sides on DACA and also why there is this Breitbart wing vs. Ryan wing feud now. My underlining:

Trump voters want to build the wall, but are more divided on other immigration questions

By John Gramlich @ Factank @ PewResearch.org, Nov. 29, 2016

[....] But while 79% of pro-Trump registered voters said in an August survey that they favored building a wall on the Mexican border, they did not take as hard a line when it came to the status of those who are already living in the U.S. illegally.

In an October survey, 60% of voters who supported Trump said undocumented immigrants should be able to stay in the U.S. if they meet certain requirements, compared with 37% who said they should not. Only about a third (32%) of Trump supporters said there should be a “national law enforcement effort to deport” all undocumented immigrants.

Trump supporters also did not indicate a high level of concern about unauthorized immigrants taking jobs from U.S. citizens when surveyed in August. Nearly six-in-ten (58%) said unauthorized immigrants “mostly fill jobs American citizens don’t want.” (In 2014, the most recent year for which data are available, there were 8 million unauthorized immigrants either working or looking for work in the U.S., according to Pew Research Center estimates based on government data.) [....]

Curiously, anti-immigration

artappraiser — Fri, 15 Jun 2018 05:06:28 +0000

In reply to Last Dreamer Dies, Dream of Legalization Unrealized

Curiously, anti-immigration central, Breitbart.com, is attacking Speaker Ryan's plan in the extreme as 3 times the size of DACA; here is their current headline story:

Ryan/Goodlatte

Immigration Deal:

Amnesty for Foreign Population Near 3X the

Size of DACA Program

An immigration compromise deal rolled out by House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) and Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-VA) would give amnesty to a foreign population that is nearly three times the size of President Obama’s Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.

By John Binder

Very well done, congrats!

barefooted — Thu, 07 Jun 2018 22:26:38 +0000

In reply to Thanks. Worked on it!

Very well done, congrats!

(Though I'm still confused about Republicans in control of the presidency and Congress or not, and when?)

Thanks. Worked on it!

NCD — Thu, 07 Jun 2018 22:06:57 +0000

In reply to The first paragraph is a bit

Thanks. Worked on it!

The first paragraph is a bit

barefooted — Thu, 07 Jun 2018 20:39:27 +0000

In reply to Thanks! Any suggestions

The first paragraph is a bit confusing, as it both notes that the Dreamer program is no longer in effect yet also implies that Republicans are still using it for political purposes. Then you write:

The period was the last time the GOP had control of Congress and the Presidency.

And yet,

Republicans have either controlled the Presidency or enough votes in the Senate to block immigration reform legislation for the past century. Court cases have kept Dreamers hopes alive all those decades.

That last sentence explains the confusion I mentioned in the first graph, so it's just a matter of moving things around a bit, I think. The part about when and for how long the GOP had control is just in need of clarification regarding what period you're referring to - again, just a time frame issue.

My larger critique was that your idea is great and it stands. But like any great start, it just needs to be tweeked. I do hope that you rely more on your own good instincts than mine!

Thanks! Any suggestions

NCD — Thu, 07 Jun 2018 19:28:56 +0000

In reply to You've got a great start here

Thanks! Any suggestions welcome!

I thought losing the house to hurricane Donald was sad, but tragically ironic....

You've got a great start here

barefooted — Thu, 07 Jun 2018 19:14:09 +0000

In reply to Last Dreamer Dies, Dream of Legalization Unrealized

You've got a great start here, NCD - really great - keep working to tone it up a bit and it will be outstanding.