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I suspected that "q" is Quinn

AmericanDreamer — Sun, 10 Jun 2018 23:55:29 +0000

I suspected that "q" is Quinn. Sure, I remember him from earlier days at dagblog. I don't recall anything he wrote about this but I might just have missed it.

If you are comfortable

barefooted — Sun, 10 Jun 2018 23:22:28 +0000

In reply to You are welcome. If you are

If you are comfortable elaborating a bit

Do you know Quinn?

You are welcome. If you are

AmericanDreamer — Sun, 10 Jun 2018 22:38:37 +0000

In reply to The formative speech, and

You are welcome. If you are comfortable elaborating a bit, how would you describe the impact the speech had on you at the time and going forward? What about it had such impact on you?

The formative speech, and

Sun, 10 Jun 2018 18:42:34 +0000

In reply to Ted Kennedy's Eulogy for his brother Bobby

The formative speech, and event, of my life.

Thanks.

Trump’s approval is up. It

rmrd0000 — Sun, 10 Jun 2018 00:22:34 +0000

In reply to Democrats have lost about 1

Trump’s approval is up. It will probably increase after meeting with Kim. I don’t see a message from Democrats that will change that.

Edit to add:

You can only win elections if they have an election.

Democrats have lost about 1

ocean-kat — Sun, 10 Jun 2018 00:09:31 +0000

In reply to Democrats have won 42 seats

Democrats have lost about 1,000 seats during Obama's two terms as president. That's a stunning loss of power in a short period of time. Winning 42 back doesn't fill me with glee. To turn that around democrats are going to have to get some swing voters and republican voters who voted for Trump.

Democrats have won 42 seats

rmrd0000 — Sat, 09 Jun 2018 23:59:48 +0000

In reply to and third party voters.

Democrats have won 42 seats since Trump got elected. Democrats have been appealing to a host of voters. You may have missed the memo.

Trumps approval sits at 41.6 at 538. This is up from prior months. Trump contradicts himself in each speech. I look at the Democratic victories despite the increase in Trump approval. I think Democrats are drawing from voters who are not Trump supporters.

and third party voters.

artappraiser — Sat, 09 Jun 2018 21:29:34 +0000

In reply to Trump gave a rambling,

and third party voters.

A lot of those people voted for Trump! You seem to have this need to label the actual swing and third party voters that helped him go over the top and win as true Trump fan "deplorables" and hardcore racists and the like. That's not what happened. He had to get more than those to win. I try to read the opinions of people like that to get a gist where they are coming from, and I don't see lot of them getting on board with saying he's the worst ever, they might wish now they hadn't chose him but they are not going to get on board with being called the worst scum ever for voting for him. It's more like they think all politicians they voted for previously ended up sucking, didn't deliver on their promises and then "it's the economy stupid", until his fuckups start showing, they are gonna tell the pollster that they generally approve of the job he's doing and that like all previous they may have voted for (i.e. Obama, I think you still avoid the topic of Obama/Trump voters with cognitive dissonance) he's not perfect.

There is a hardcore nasty conservative 1/3 in this country for decades. The rest of his approval rating is swings, independents etc. You need some of those to win the presidency. Given the electoral college, getting out the black vote, one of your favorite things, doesn't apply to the presidency (except maybe in Wisconsin, where blacks staying home really did hurt). Just like getting out more of the vote in NYC isn't going to affect a damn thing as to who wins the presidency.

To win the presidency, you have to get a significant number of that 8% that is still giving him a positive approval rating over and above the 33% that is hard core. Especially because they are in swing states. There's too many red and purple states for a true blue president to win, that's the problem, it's really that simple.

Edit to add: That is precisely why Obama played to moderates and conservative Christians and tried to sell bipartisan creds and the like in his first campaign. That's how Obama won, getting some of those "deplorables." A perfect example is that both Obama and Trump called the Iraq war a stupid war while making clear that they were not against all wars nor against targeting terrorists with drone assassinations and the like. Obama and his first lady were also more authentically pro-military-families than Trump has been so far, that's anotherexample of another kind of thing that sells to what some might label "deplorables."

I saw him on Bill Maher

Richard Day — Sat, 09 Jun 2018 19:16:09 +0000

In reply to Michael Eric Dyson tells the

I saw him on Bill Maher

Dyson was great.

We, as humans might progress instead of regress.

I always liked Dyson. I just thought he was more thoughtful with Bill last night.

Trump gave a rambling,

rmrd0000 — Sat, 09 Jun 2018 15:06:34 +0000

In reply to Thank you for the references,

Trump gave a rambling, incoherent speech at the G7 conference this morning. Trump is damaging our relationship with Europe. The man is not mentally stable. His supporters overlook the obvious. I think attempts to convert these voters are futile compared to getting out people who did not vote and third party voters.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rFygaQHX7P4