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Light up another giraffe.

moat — Mon, 18 Jun 2018 23:03:17 +0000

In reply to NK is not going to nuke the

Light up another giraffe.

NK is not going to nuke the

artappraiser — Mon, 18 Jun 2018 23:00:36 +0000

NK is not going to nuke the real estate they covet.

That's the argument I've always used with nervous nelly freakouts about NK since like 2003. Like: call me when they have a missile that will carry it across the planet.

The difference between worry about them and worry about mideast nukes was always: the stability of the world oil supply, stupids. Now even that matters less.

Related breaking on this isn't Kansas anymore Toto, Salvador-Dali world: I just heard Gen. Michael Hayden, formerly known as a CIA director and NSA director and National Intelligence director, basically tell Wolf Blitzer that we are now the most frightening de-stabilizing force in the world. He said when people ask him what keeps you up at night, he answers: us, we do, i.e., this country. I believe he also used the word "scary".

Donald Kirk has expressed

moat — Mon, 18 Jun 2018 21:33:22 +0000

In reply to We should deal with Trump/Kim

Donald Kirk of the Daily Beast has expressed clearly the view that the conventional weapons are the most important issue dividing the Koreas.

NK is not going to nuke the real estate they covet.

Interesting point I haven't

artappraiser — Sat, 16 Jun 2018 09:02:22 +0000

In reply to We should deal with Trump/Kim

Interesting point I haven't seen being made until now:

Some 7,800 American troops are still missing from the Korean War, far more than from the Vietnam War. Most are thought to be in North Korea. https://t.co/plgXAUL3VQ
— NYT National News (@NYTNational) June 16, 2018

wow, what a find, I never saw

artappraiser — Sat, 16 Jun 2018 06:26:35 +0000

In reply to Ah yes, Dali has this in view

wow, what a find, I never saw that one and it certainly does fit the bill with not just one burning giraffe but three of them, that would basically signify: armaggedon! And it gets across exactly the mood I was getting at being a news junklie at this point in time, I am reminded of this Dali quote: I do not understand why, when I ask for a grilled lobster in a restaurant, I am never served a cooked telephone

Ah yes, Dali has this in view

moat — Fri, 15 Jun 2018 22:22:10 +0000

In reply to Oh geeeeez, whoever made that

Ah yes, Dali has this sort of thing in view. I thought about the draping ham series but decided the following is closer to the mark:

Oh geeeeez, whoever made that

artappraiser — Fri, 15 Jun 2018 05:55:28 +0000

In reply to Power Point Porn - Hollywood

Oh geeeeez, whoever made that for him really had Trump's number and is freaking me out just as badly as the Macy's homeless shelter story. Comes to mind at least Ronald Reagan stuck to the more heavenly and vague shining city on a hill, while Trump is selling hotels with gold plated brass plumbing and a kind of mix between Saddam and Palm Beach, the classic difference between Hollywood movies and broadcast teevee sitcoms. Us as observers, it's all seeming kinda like the PoMo horror scenario moat was getting at here on the Lakoff thread. At the very least I know there's a Salvador Dail painting somewhere that fairly accurately depicts what we are going through right now

I find it hard to imagine

artappraiser — Fri, 15 Jun 2018 04:51:09 +0000

In reply to Why would Trump need a third

I find it hard to imagine anything other than a We don't need no stinking third parties policy, especially as the Trump Doctrine of foreign policy has recently been elaborated by a White House official as We're America, Bitch

Excerpt from Jeffrey Goldberg's June 11 column @ TheAtlantic.com:A Senior White House Official Defines the Trump Doctrine: ‘We’re America, Bitch’

The best distillation of the Trump Doctrine I heard, though, came from a senior White House official with direct access to the president and his thinking. I was talking to this person several weeks ago, and I said, by way of introduction, that I thought it might perhaps be too early to discern a definitive Trump Doctrine.

“No,” the official said. “There’s definitely a Trump Doctrine.”

“What is it?” I asked. Here is the answer I received:

“The Trump Doctrine is ‘We’re America, Bitch.’ That’s the Trump Doctrine.”

It struck me almost immediately that this was the most acute, and attitudinally honest, description of the manner in which members of Trump’s team, and Trump himself, understand their role in the world.

Why would Trump need a third

ocean-kat — Thu, 14 Jun 2018 21:51:57 +0000

In reply to That dismantling work does go

Why would Trump need a third party to monitor the verification process? Trump thinks Kim is "very honorable" and he trusts him. But if a third party is really necessary how about Putin? Trump trusts him too and there's historical precedent. Obama trusted Putin to remove chemical weapons from Syria.

That dismantling work does go

moat — Thu, 14 Jun 2018 20:52:42 +0000

In reply to The NYT had an article that

That dismantling work does go beyond the scope of work the IAEA has done so far. If the deal were to go forward, it seems like some kind of neutral party would have to be part of the verification process. That, after all, has been the backstory for the "six party" negotiations that fell short in the past. Who is neutral?
Assuming for the moment that the agreement was signed in good faith on both sides (*moat experienced a sharp pain in his sides while typing that), the administration will have to support this yet to be named international authority to move forward.

Gotta go. Bolton just appeared in my Lobby intercom camera.