dagblog - Comments for "Laura Bush blasts Trump migrant policy as &#039;cruel&#039; and &#039;immoral&#039;" http://dagblog.com/link/laura-bush-blasts-trump-migrant-policy-cruel-and-immoral-25380 Comments for "Laura Bush blasts Trump migrant policy as 'cruel' and 'immoral'" en More here, Friday afternoon @ http://dagblog.com/comment/253807#comment-253807 <a id="comment-253807"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/253805#comment-253805">It&#039;s starting to look to me</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>More here, Friday afternoon @ RollCall.com</p> <p><a href="https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/donald-trump-shivved-compromise-gop-immigration-bill">How Donald Trump Shivved a Compromise GOP Immigration Bill</a></p> <p><em>Aides were caught unaware by president's announcement</em></p> <p>In a tweet Fri.. @ 1pm, he was already blaming "the Dems" for "breakup of families at the Border"  followed by what he wanted in a bill.</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 19 Jun 2018 06:00:46 +0000 artappraiser comment 253807 at http://dagblog.com It's starting to look to me http://dagblog.com/comment/253805#comment-253805 <a id="comment-253805"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/laura-bush-blasts-trump-migrant-policy-cruel-and-immoral-25380">Laura Bush blasts Trump migrant policy as &#039;cruel&#039; and &#039;immoral&#039;</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>It's starting to look to me like the border kids are hostages in order to make Congress enact something so Sessions and Miller can try to get what they want and Trump can fight with Congress for money for the wall:</p> <div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>Sessions and Miller believe deeply in a set of immigration policy goals for which Trump was their best vehicle. The border wall is Trump's claimed priority but it's not really their priority. Changing laws and, for Miller, restricting the levels of legal immigration is the goal. <a href="https://t.co/6ONpV9jm9J">https://t.co/6ONpV9jm9J</a></p> — Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) <a href="https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1008910293240606720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 19, 2018</a></blockquote> </div> <p>That's why he and his best spinmeisters like Kellyanne keep saying stuff like it's the Dems fault. They'll keep doing the nastiest stuff they can by law because while they do so it doesn't hurt with the rabid base and at the same time everyone else that is appalled will challenge the congress critters to action where they can have the fights they want to have. Nothing to lose for them doing this border separation thing.</p> <p>Edit to add, more here:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">If nothing else, these proposals - many of them discussed by the WH before .- serves as virtue-signaling from Miller toward the House conservatives as the immigration bills are being discussed <a href="https://t.co/AF4x2JdKHi">https://t.co/AF4x2JdKHi</a></p> — Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) <a href="https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1008916745321615360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 19, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Tue, 19 Jun 2018 04:40:46 +0000 artappraiser comment 253805 at http://dagblog.com What Obama's last Sec. of http://dagblog.com/comment/253796#comment-253796 <a id="comment-253796"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/laura-bush-blasts-trump-migrant-policy-cruel-and-immoral-25380">Laura Bush blasts Trump migrant policy as &#039;cruel&#039; and &#039;immoral&#039;</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>What Obama's last Sec. of Homeland Security, Jeh Charles Johnson,  sez about it and what needs to be done, <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-zero-tolerance-border-policy-is-immoral-un-american--and-ineffective/2018/06/18/efc4c514-732d-11e8-b4b7-308400242c2e_story.html?utm_term=.03d899623fef">@ WaPo op-ed today.</a></p> </div></div></div> Tue, 19 Jun 2018 00:16:58 +0000 artappraiser comment 253796 at http://dagblog.com NYTimes knows what gets http://dagblog.com/comment/253788#comment-253788 <a id="comment-253788"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/laura-bush-blasts-trump-migrant-policy-cruel-and-immoral-25380">Laura Bush blasts Trump migrant policy as &#039;cruel&#039; and &#039;immoral&#039;</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Not news: NYTimes knows what gets clicks. Here's the current home page left column and note 1747 comments on headline story in 1 1/4 hrs. They're hoping that next up Trump bashes apple pie?</p> <p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/18/us/politics/trump-immigration-germany-merkel.html">Trump Defends Child Separation but Falsely Pins It on Democrats</a></p> <p>By KATIE ROGERS and EILEEN SULLIVAN 4:42 PM ET</p> <ul><li><em>President Trump remained resistant in the face of growing public outcry over his administration’s policy of separating children from their parents at the border.</em></li> <li><em>He repeated the false assertion that Democrats were to blame for it, and claimed that criminals used children to cross into the U.S.</em></li> </ul><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/18/us/politics/trump-immigration-germany-merkel.html?hp&amp;target=comments#commentsContainer">1747 Comments</a></p> <ul><li> <p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/18/world/europe/fact-check-trump-germany.html">Fact Check: Trump’s False Claims on German Migration</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/18/world/europe/germany-merkel-coalition.html">Merkel Seeks Migration Compromise to Keep German Coalition Together</a></p> </li> </ul><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/17/us/immigration-deported-parents.html">‘I Can’t Go Without My Son’: A Deported Mother’s Plea</a></p> <p>By MIRIAM JORDAN 11:57 AM ET</p> <p><em>As a growing number of families are being separated as part of the Trump administration’s attempt to control illegal immigration, some are being deported without their children.</em></p> <p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/17/us/immigration-deported-parents.html?hp&amp;target=comments#commentsContainer">1965 Comments</a></p> <ul><li> <p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/18/world/europe/trump-migrant-children-un.html">U.N. Rights Chief Calls Separation Policy Child Abuse</a></p> </li> </ul><p>Edit to add: meanwhile over at WaPo this afternoon,<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2018/06/18/has-trump-finally-gone-too-far/?utm_term=.bd9b3ec2f02b"> Max Boot wonders "Has Trump finally gone too far?</a>"</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 18 Jun 2018 22:12:15 +0000 artappraiser comment 253788 at http://dagblog.com Midnight Special. Nunes will http://dagblog.com/comment/253783#comment-253783 <a id="comment-253783"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/253782#comment-253782">at a total loss how to spin</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Midnight Special. Nunes will be there fer shure.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 18 Jun 2018 20:25:21 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 253783 at http://dagblog.com at a total loss how to spin http://dagblog.com/comment/253782#comment-253782 <a id="comment-253782"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/253775#comment-253775">ran across this May 25</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>at a total loss how to spin it anymore:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">As bipartisan outrage grows over the administration's zero tolerance immigration policy, the White House briefing has been delayed from 1:15 to 3:30 to 4:00.</p> — Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) <a href="https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1008796014726303745?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Mon, 18 Jun 2018 20:14:49 +0000 artappraiser comment 253782 at http://dagblog.com ran across this May 25 http://dagblog.com/comment/253775#comment-253775 <a id="comment-253775"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/laura-bush-blasts-trump-migrant-policy-cruel-and-immoral-25380">Laura Bush blasts Trump migrant policy as &#039;cruel&#039; and &#039;immoral&#039;</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>ran across <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/were-closed-trump-directs-his-anger-over-immigration-at-homeland-security-secretary/2018/05/24/4bd686ec-5abc-11e8-8b92-45fdd7aaef3c_story.html?utm_term=.b5035ee10d9b">this May 25 Washington Post piece on Nielsen </a>which explains a lot of things in one sentence:</p> <blockquote> <p>the strains illustrate the difficulty faced by Trump subordinates who are tasked with delivering policy solutions to match his most soaring promises.</p> <p><u>“The president has a very rudimentary understanding of what the border is all about and how you secure it,</u>” said a former Department of Homeland Security staffer who worked closely with Nielsen. “And she’s also not one of the border fire-eaters that have his ear right now."</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Mon, 18 Jun 2018 19:34:33 +0000 artappraiser comment 253775 at http://dagblog.com They've lost @BillOReilly http://dagblog.com/comment/253774#comment-253774 <a id="comment-253774"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/laura-bush-blasts-trump-migrant-policy-cruel-and-immoral-25380">Laura Bush blasts Trump migrant policy as &#039;cruel&#039; and &#039;immoral&#039;</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">They've lost <a href="https://twitter.com/BillOReilly?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BillOReilly</a> <a href="https://t.co/SInQbRoDhu">https://t.co/SInQbRoDhu</a></p> — Nick Miroff (@NickMiroff) <a href="https://twitter.com/NickMiroff/status/1008762183889641473?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Mon, 18 Jun 2018 19:27:08 +0000 artappraiser comment 253774 at http://dagblog.com Leading Republicans Join http://dagblog.com/comment/253770#comment-253770 <a id="comment-253770"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/laura-bush-blasts-trump-migrant-policy-cruel-and-immoral-25380">Laura Bush blasts Trump migrant policy as &#039;cruel&#039; and &#039;immoral&#039;</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/17/us/politics/melania-trump-family-separation.html">Leading Republicans Join Democrats in Pushing Trump to Halt Family Separations</a></p> <p>By Peter Baker @ NYTimes.com, June 17</p> <blockquote> <p>[....] Republican lawmakers, the former first lady Laura Bush and a onetime adviser to Mr. Trump joined Democrats, including former President Bill Clinton, in condemning the family separations [.....]</p> <p>Senator Susan Collins, Republican of Maine, condemned the separations on Sunday, except in cases where there is evidence of abuse or another good reason. “What the administration has decided to do is to separate children from their parents to try to send a message that, if you cross the border with children, your children are going to be ripped away from you,” she said on “Face the Nation” on CBS. “That is traumatizing to the children, who are innocent victims. And it is contrary to our values in this country.”</p> <p>“We know from years of experience that we need to fix our immigration laws,” she added, “and that using children is not the answer.”</p> <p>Mr. Clinton likewise spoke out, suggesting that Mr. Trump was using the widely condemned practice to leverage Democrats into accepting immigration limits in legislation they would otherwise oppose.</p> <p>“These children should not be a negotiating tool,” <a href="https://twitter.com/BillClinton/status/1008379614908035073" target="_blank" title="">he wrote</a> on Twitter. “And reuniting them with their families would reaffirm America’s belief in &amp; support for all parents who love their children.”</p> <p>Hillary Clinton <a href="https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1008384949760724992" target="_blank" title="">retweeted that message</a>, adding, “YES!” [....]</p> <p>“President Trump could stop this policy with a phone call,” Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina and often an ally and golfing partner of the president’s, said on CNN on Friday. “I’ll go tell him. If you don’t like families’ being separated, you can tell D.H.S. stop doing it.”</p> <p>Anthony Scaramucci, who served briefly as White House communications director last year, said separating children from their families is not “the Christian way” or “the American way,” and made clear he thinks Mr. Trump can end it on his own. “The President can reverse it and I hope he does,” <a href="https://twitter.com/Scaramucci/status/1008422963920678912" target="_blank" title="">he wrote on Twitter.</a> [....]</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Mon, 18 Jun 2018 03:44:16 +0000 artappraiser comment 253770 at http://dagblog.com