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I would guess that "support

artappraiser — Fri, 06 Jul 2018 01:36:22 +0000

In reply to Shifting Public Views on Legal Immigration Into the U.S.

I would guess that "support the troops" conservatives might not like this new immigration news too much just like a lot of "family values" conservatives weren't thrilled about taking babies from moms:

AP NewsBreak: The U.S. Army has moved in recent weeks to discharge dozens of immigrant recruits and reservists who enlisted through a program that promised them a path to citizenship. https://t.co/OFMawYeMRm
— The Associated Press (@AP) July 5, 2018

Funny - I did the same. My

barefooted — Fri, 06 Jul 2018 01:18:39 +0000

In reply to yeah, early 60's, but I was

Funny - I did the same. My friend's parents always loved me because I was a polite and friendly child. When I got older they liked me because I was an old soul and seemed to understand them more than their kids did - weird, I know. The affinity for older people has carried through my life .. I'm in my mid fifties and still feel closer to those older than me. But I can still kinda sorta try to understand that new-age music!

Aren't you in your sixties?

barefooted — Fri, 06 Jul 2018 01:05:33 +0000

In reply to Well, I am old enough to

Aren't you in your sixties? Maybe I'm wrong ... but if you are, I think your experience lies more in your life than your age. Then again, if you're older, my apologies (though my appreciation of your life experience stands even firmer).

yeah, early 60's, but I was

artappraiser — Fri, 06 Jul 2018 01:04:57 +0000

In reply to Aren't you in your sixties?

yeah, early 60's, but I was old for my age as a youngin and often hung out with older folks

(there's a down side to the latter: they can lose their marbles or even die on ya!)

For the "DOH!" files from

artappraiser — Fri, 06 Jul 2018 01:02:43 +0000

In reply to Shifting Public Views on Legal Immigration Into the U.S.

For the "DOH!" files from FiveThirtyEight.com: Separating Families At The Border Is Really Unpopular; Even Republicans are split on the issue.

I know you are arta. One

ocean-kat — Thu, 05 Jul 2018 21:35:32 +0000

In reply to Well, I am old enough to

I know you are arta. One would think that eventually the pot would boil over and in our favor. One would think it would have boiled over before now. Yet it hasn't and I'm not sure when or how it will.

Well, I am old enough to

artappraiser — Thu, 05 Jul 2018 20:09:14 +0000

In reply to I see polls like this all the

Well, I am old enough to realize this: when bad things happen that draw attention to an issue, like the child separation thing with immigration and now the Supreme Court opening with abortion, people that don't have the time or inclination to understand what's going on with their government as regards same, finally pay attention and learn some of the nuance. There's a "consciousness raising" as it were. Where something may finally end up happening, because congress critters finally get some direct input. It does go in cycles, there's always a new generation that needs to figure things out, and throw in the people that might have known the situation 20 years ago but it's changed.

On immigration, one thing to keep in mind that the positivity is about legal immigration, not illegal.

I think it might be a major midterm voting issue that the Congress has not managed to do a bill. Both because Trump keeps demagoguing it and because he also seems determined to continue with draconian enforcement against illegals and making things difficult for even green card holders. So many stories about so many nightmares along the lines of yes, as you said "this is our neighbor, he's one of the good ones" just might do it. What all the polls mean combine with what Trump is doing and the whole DACA problem just suggests to me that all voters, even those who supposedly want to be tough on immigrants, want some new laws from Congress on it. Even Trump says he wants that. And they can't manage to do it. It's not going away and looks like it's going to be a factor in the elections for every candidate.

I see polls like this all the

ocean-kat — Thu, 05 Jul 2018 19:08:10 +0000

In reply to % o Americans who view

I see polls like this all the time that seem to show that a majority of the public supports the democratic position on many issues. I really don't know what to make of them since they don't seem to effect elections or policy outcomes. Perhaps it comes down to the senate where 500,000 people in Wyoming get the same number of senators as 39.78 million California. What ever the reason I don't think we should celebrate too much when it seems like the majority agrees with us.

% o Americans who view

artappraiser — Thu, 05 Jul 2018 17:33:57 +0000

In reply to Shifting Public Views on Legal Immigration Into the U.S.

% o Americans who view immigration as a "good thing" for America:

2014: 63%
2018: 75% https://t.co/grNYheOjEf
— Ezra Klein (@ezraklein) July 5, 2018