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The Onion team knows how to

artappraiser — Sat, 21 Jul 2018 09:23:26 +0000

In reply to Pretty much all the best jokes on the futility of political arguments on the internet, in one thread

The Onion team knows how to skewer the overly politically correct correctly:

Nation's Strangers Decry Negative Portrayal Among Children https://t.co/bjnFu0L9gq pic.twitter.com/eVuyxOud43
— The Onion (@TheOnion) July 20, 2018

I stand corrected, all the

rmrd0000 — Tue, 10 Jul 2018 03:15:06 +0000

In reply to Even your Wired link says

I stand corrected, all the bots did was change behavior. The bots activated and suppressed votes.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-21/twitter-bots-helped-trump-and-brexit-win-economic-study-says

Even your Wired link says

artappraiser — Tue, 10 Jul 2018 02:49:37 +0000

In reply to It may be that people are

Even your Wired link says straight out that Russian ops were not designed to persuade but to reinforce a tendency to divisions already present and sow chaos by ramping up diviseness:

3. Who or what was the operation targeting, and what did it aim to achieve?

The indictment mentions that the Russian accounts were meant to embed with and emulate “radical” groups. The content was not designed to persuade people to change their views, but to harden those views. Confirmation bias is powerful and commonly employed in these kinds of psychological operations (a related Soviet concept is “reflexive control”—applying pressure in ways to elicit a specific, known response). The intention of these campaigns was to activate—or suppress—target groups. Not to change their views, but to change their behavior.

It is easy to find other pieces that say the intent was not to persuade but to sow chaos.

In Europe as well, their point was to stir chaos, and eventually bring down systems by doing so.

So advocating copying their methods would be to advocate sowing chaos by reinforcing latent prejudices about "the other" and to get people to act out divisiveness more blatantly.

It may be that people are

rmrd0000 — Mon, 09 Jul 2018 19:45:14 +0000

In reply to Among those who sometimes use

It may be that people are disagreeing more than trying to persuade. There is some evidence that opinions can be changed by comments made on the internet. If everyone is agreeing is it an echo chamber?

https://www.thecut.com/2016/02/sometimes-social-media-can-change-minds.html

The most obvious case of using the internet to actually persuade people is the Russian hack on the United States election system.

https://www.wired.com/story/did-russia-affect-the-2016-election-its-now-undeniable/

Among those who sometimes use

AmericanDreamer — Mon, 09 Jul 2018 19:31:29 +0000

In reply to Pretty much all the best jokes on the futility of political arguments on the internet, in one thread

Among those who sometimes use the internet for purposes relating to political persuasion, I wonder what the ratio of those seeking to persuade to those seeking to be persuaded is?

Except now the Internet

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 08 Jul 2018 09:38:42 +0000

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Except now the Internet itself is wrong.
And "on the Internet nobody knows you're a dog" becomes any number of alternatives.

I'm reminded now that

artappraiser — Sun, 08 Jul 2018 09:20:10 +0000

In reply to Pretty much all the best jokes on the futility of political arguments on the internet, in one thread

I'm reminded now that sometimes the old classics still work just fine:

Might be the "boulevard" of

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 08 Jul 2018 05:04:00 +0000

In reply to You don't know what I got, so

Might be the "boulevard" of broken dreams you know... Bubble bubble, toil and trouble:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x53ie48

You don't know what I got, so

barefooted — Sun, 08 Jul 2018 00:52:12 +0000

In reply to 60-40 split on the social

You don't know what I got, so standard ain't gonna cut it. Toy marketing in the works, so best you'll buy is 10 - less expenses, 'natch. First run? Already outdone, dude. As to the peephole, a taste is all I'm giving, but if you're willing to explore other "avenues", I'm down.

60-40 split on the social

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 08 Jul 2018 00:09:03 +0000

In reply to #BubbleToo hasn't gotten much

60-40 split on the social video distro, natch. Minus expenses & separate from the toy marketing. First run 10 episodes. BTW, "through the peephole" means something completely diff these days. How you gonna keep 'em down on the farm...