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The difference in social

rmrd0000 — Mon, 15 Feb 2021 17:43:50 +0000

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The difference in social message was clear when John Legend criticized L'il Wayne.

L'il Wayne said Trump was OK

L'il Wayne was, to be honest, angling for a pardon.

The other joke is has anyone seen Ice Cube

Cube told us that he convinced Trump to heavily invest in the Black community

Edit to add:

Interesting to note colorism is still a hot topic in hip-hop

Colorism is the elephant in the room that the music industry continues to ignore. This week, DaniLeigh faced backlash for her song "Yellow Bone," which she described as a songfor light-skinned women. "Yellow bone that's what he want," she sings in a teaser she released on her Instagram.

To no one's surprise, except maybe DaniLeigh's, the snippet didn't go over so well. Fans questioned why the singer, who identifies as Dominican—which often comes with its own very complicated relationship with Blackness—felt that light skinned women needed an anthem to begin with. "Why can't I make a song for my light skinned baddies ??" she asked under the post. "Why y'all think I'm hating on other colors when there are millions of songs speaking on all types.. Why yall so sensitive & take it personal.. gahhhh damn."

Except, there's a lot to take personally. The legacy of being a "yellow bone" isn't rooted in a preference, but instead is the result of decades of color bias placing lighter skin, which is closer to whiteness, as superior to darker complexions. Despite the country's complicated relationship with race, colorism doesn't just exist in America. Its effects can be felt globally, and Latin American countries, like the Dominican Republic, and communities experience the impacts to this day. When confronted on Twitter about her ethnicity she wrote, "I'm Dominican, I'm Spanish.. I'm black, I'm white.. leave me alone." A huge part of the problem with not only DaniLeigh's song, but her response, is that by trying to separate her Dominican identity from Blackness, she is erasing Afro-Latinx who identify as both and fails to understand that difference between race, ethnicity, and nationality. Being Dominican doesn't absolve you from perpetuating anti-Black rhetoric, regardless of your skin color.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/4ad5pw/is-hip-hop-ready-to-address-its-colorism-problem-danileigh-yellow-bone

It might sound like an old

Orion — Mon, 15 Feb 2021 16:37:29 +0000

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It might sound like an old man comment but that genre has clearly deteriorated from the days of A Tribe Called Quest, Black Star, House of Pain, etc. It appeals to the lowest common denominator and there is a general antisocial zeitgeist to hip-hop/rap that's not really good. Also, "mumble rap" sort of demonstrates that most rappers now aren't really that in to it the way someone like Busta Rhymes was.

Of course, I know how much glorification of ghetto life was in 1990s/2000s hip-hop but there was at least something authentic about it.

If what you claim about hip

artappraiser — Mon, 10 Sep 2018 23:46:28 +0000

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If what you claim about hip hop artists practicing colorism is still true, then it strikes me that they are way behind the eight ball on where mass pop culture is going on that, if the newly crowned Miss America for 2019 is any indicator:

Photos: Nia Franklin wins Miss America title

I checked: judges were 5 white, 2 black, all with mass pop culture experience: former boxer and TV host Laila Ali, radio personality Bobby Bones, country music artist and reality star Jessie JamesDecker, music producer and former American Idol judge Randy Jackson, news anchor Soledad O’Brien, Dry Bar founder Alli Webb, and music icon Carnie Wilson.

and that's without even getting into how she got to be Miss New York.

If I did have an opinion on

artappraiser — Wed, 08 Aug 2018 03:42:18 +0000

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If I did have an opinion on that and voiced it, wouldn't you berate me for being a whitey sticking my two cents in where it doesn't belong? (I believe you've said straight out more than once that you don't care what I think. So forgive me for thinking that a trick question as well.)

AGAIN, MY ONLY POINT: public self-deprecation seems to appear in cultures once they feel confident and safe in a society. It could therefore be a sign that they no longer feel they lack any power.

Edit to add: You seem to suggest that hip hop needs policing. The Tipper Gore reference was not facetious. Who's gonna be your Tipper Gore? Isn't it kind of ridiculous to think rmrd and likeminded friends can affect what such an old, large and broad genre is approved to do? A rating system will help? Puhleez. If it will sell, someone's gonna do it. It it didn't sell, so few will do it that no one will know about it. Artists have freedom of speech in this country. It's one thing to report on what's going on and disapproving, it's another to think a cry (on Dagblog,. no less) that it needs to change is going to make any difference. I am textbook ACLU on this type of thing, nothing else makes much sense if you've studied the history of art as long as I have.

Hah, definitely belongs in my

artappraiser — Wed, 08 Aug 2018 03:23:14 +0000

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Hah, definitely belongs in my "appropriation in action" meme.

Surprised to see the rebbes have caught up on assigning new kinda careers for earned income.

It's not just the music, but the once sinful electric guitars, that they are playing them, not just selling them to goys.

How about these guys?

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 07 Aug 2018 16:31:06 +0000

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How about these guys? Certainly couldn't be LA or Boston, and I shudder to think Las Vegas...

Billy Gibbons addressed this

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 07 Aug 2018 16:28:11 +0000

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Billy Gibbons addressed this important issue back before Tipper's time...
"I been bad, I been good, there was Texas, Hollywoooooddd, I ain't asking for much..."

I am compared to the “good”

rmrd0000 — Tue, 07 Aug 2018 15:54:38 +0000

In reply to Wow, that sounds like a good

I am compared to the “good” blacks, etc. and am not supposed to take offense. The core of the discussion is the impact of Colorism and language has a positive or negative effect. If it’s just art, say so.

Edit to add:

The.question was in response to the Tipper Gore/Rock and Roll comment.

Wow, that sounds like a good

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 07 Aug 2018 15:27:00 +0000

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Wow, that sounds like a good thesis topic. For someone with too much time on their hands. Right up therewith "is it worse to be called 'skank' or 'lezzie'" and other eternal philosophical questions.

BTW, yeah, Woody Allen habitually slams/makes fun of/satirizes Jews and Jewish habits. Actually I thiught his whole persona was a self-parody of a particular Jewish type, even though it's himself, the scrawny nervous self-questioning schlemiel.

De Niro/Pesci is an amalgam,

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 07 Aug 2018 15:19:00 +0000

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De Niro/Pesci is an amalgam, plus De Niro's played a Jewish gangster among his Italian roles. And done a bad musical with Liza Minelli even. I could pick John Leguizamo but he's too obscure and nice. I'm happy to consider someone else in the in-your-face totally obnoxious vein like that Michael Maiello fellow, but they have to be iconic. Like the Beasties...

https://youtu.be/07Y0cy-nvAg