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FFS, I didn't call it ancient

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 29 Jul 2018 19:16:09 +0000

FFS, I didn't call it ancient history - I said we all here fucking know.

... I then posted a link to

A Guy Called LULU — Sun, 29 Jul 2018 18:00:39 +0000

In reply to Thanks NCD. I don’t know how

... I then posted a link to an article about how a white pitcher was rapidly forgiven for apologizing after using racial slurs as a teen. I don’t think that I black pitcher would have received a similar response.

Not everywhere of course, but here and in many other places the now unacceptable views held and overtly expressed in the past by a black woman now at MSNBC were explained away, apologized for, and quickly forgiven by most Democrats I heard express an opinion, most of whom are white. She still has her job when a white person on the same perch might have, probably would have, lost theirs. She still has far greater influence on the opinion of a large sector of the American public than does any baseball player. That said, people who are nationally recognized have an effect when they speak whether they should have on the particular subject of their speech or not. I strongly support Kaepernick even though I think his action might well have been counter productive to his intention.

What is old news include

rmrd0000 — Sun, 29 Jul 2018 17:38:24 +0000

In reply to "If I point out that a

What is old news include fresh events. Not easy for many black people to ignore. Uneducated whites are still supporting or being silent white Republicans work to suppress black votes. The events are current events. The baseball ovation is today’s news. The NYT has a story today about racism in the suffragette movement that impacts relationships between black and white female activists today.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/28/opinion/sunday/suffrage-movement-racism-black-women.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region

Current events. Not ancient history.

Edit to add:

We talked about emoluments when Trump was elected.

We still talk about emoluments. A judge recently ruled that a case could go forward.

We talk about emoluments because it has ever gone away

"If I point out that a

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 29 Jul 2018 16:37:47 +0000

In reply to There is nothing offensive

"If I point out that a majority of white voters supported Trump, I’m attacking all white people." - sigh, no, that's baseline knowledge and fact at dag. That doesn't mean a minority whites weren't critical in defeating Roy Moore, but yeah, we've been rehashing how uneducated whites vote for 1 1/2 years.

However the thing about more incidents - of any type - can be the "availability syndrome" in psychology - we see something often so we assume it happens more often than other possibilities. But since these day these topics get clicks, media outlets have more incentive to front-page them. #MeToo didn't just start happening - it's events 50 years ago to present that suddenly became newsworthy, along with Twitter allowing things to magnified thru retweets much more than yesterday. A big reason why we see more black incidents is because of smartphone videos, which is great, but it doesn't say the *frequency* is more or not. (plus "copy cat" crimes and incidents follow the news coverage. On our side we see it confronting Trump officials)

There is nothing offensive

rmrd0000 — Sun, 29 Jul 2018 14:45:41 +0000

In reply to Do you really feel that?

There is nothing offensive about posting situations where police were called on black people whether it be in response to a news article or a blog. I simply posted a fact. I posted links to articles discussing Colorism as reported by black models and actors who report their experiences. AA responded with a tweet showing black images. Blacks are Hot.

13% of black men voted for Trump. If I called them stupid or Uncle Toms, there would be zero objection. If I point out that a majority of white voters supported Trump, I’m attacking all white people.

I agree this is not about me.

Do you really feel that?

barefooted — Sun, 29 Jul 2018 02:01:15 +0000

In reply to Wow.

Do you really feel that? That there's no benefit? You know perhaps better than most here that there is benefit in speaking out, and if you think you're being attacked (really, here at dag?) then just frigging work with it, dude. I don't think I need to tell you that it's not about you.

Wow.

rmrd0000 — Sun, 29 Jul 2018 01:36:05 +0000

In reply to Screw making sense. Do it

Wow.

My point is that I’m going to be attacked no matter how I present data. There is no benefit for me.

Screw making sense. Do it

barefooted — Sun, 29 Jul 2018 01:31:07 +0000

In reply to It does make sense to me that

Screw making sense. Do it anyway. Just. Do. It.

Thanks for the shout-out, NCD

barefooted — Sun, 29 Jul 2018 01:27:07 +0000

In reply to When someone says this about

Thanks for the shout-out, NCD, always nice to be quoted. While I do tend to pay attention, I suppose there's always a risk that I don't make sense. Then again ... sloppiness is universal.

eta: This was your response at the time:

"Only thing unique is their sloppiness"...haha...good one....it's probably their most redeemable attribute!

The sad truth is that many

rmrd0000 — Sun, 29 Jul 2018 00:39:09 +0000

In reply to Thanks for the background.

The sad truth is that many Trump supporters would cast a vote for Putin before they would vote for a Democrat.