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The text is copied from

moat — Wed, 22 Aug 2018 12:33:50 +0000

The text is copied from reddit and briebart threads where the narrative has been developed over several years and then pasted here.
So it is less of a presumption and more of a practical joke. It is like filling a paper bag with dog excrement, setting it on fire at the entrance to a house, ringing the doorbell, and then hiding behind a tree to see what happens.

Acknowledges that “being nice

artappraiser — Wed, 22 Aug 2018 07:07:52 +0000

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Acknowledges that “being nice” to him is a condition for retaining one’s security clearance https://t.co/5LrFLq6xKG
— erica orden (@eorden) August 21, 2018

The TDS driven political

artappraiser — Tue, 21 Aug 2018 18:54:55 +0000

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The TDS driven political cabal within the IC ?

Just asking because you say it's "clear and present danger to the republic." I'm saying this is not "clear." It sounds like it's coming from an in group of like conspiracy theorists who use acronyms that nobody outside the group even understands what they are talking about, so it just sounds crazy.

Edit to add: but then you seem to like the mysterious communique thing. You didn't define "snowflake" or "commie" when you first started slinging those words around here as derogatives, you just presumed all readers knew what they meant, as if you were speaking with an in group.

It's good to see these old IC

Peter — Tue, 21 Aug 2018 14:28:25 +0000

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It's good to see these old IC goons squirming because their retained power and influence is threatened and it's telling that they are supporting a ranting screwball security threat like Brennan. Brennan represents the TDS driven political cabal within the IC who are the clear and present danger to the republic.

Washington Post has done a

artappraiser — Tue, 21 Aug 2018 08:38:44 +0000

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Washington Post has done a list of "almost 250":

Almost 250 officials have spoken out against Trump’s decision to revoke Brennan’s clearance. Here’s a list.

Last week, President Trump revoked former CIA director John Brennan’s security clearance. Since then, a growing group of former intelligence officials have expressed support for Brennan.

By Youjin Shin, Aug. 21

ATTN: ALL DEEP -STATE

artappraiser — Tue, 21 Aug 2018 06:10:05 +0000

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ATTN: ALL DEEP-STATE CONSPIRACY FANS! Brennan-supportin' Trump-coup plotters now up to 177!

Trump dares 'worst CIA director' Brennan to sue as security row deepens

177 ex-national security officials sign open letter accusing Trump of revoking Brennan’s clearance for political reasons

@ TheGuardian.com, Aug. 20

important thread. Sums up why

artappraiser — Tue, 21 Aug 2018 01:49:14 +0000

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important thread. Sums up why it's so extraordinary that these career officials of our national security world are speaking out after a lifetime of not doing so as presidents in both parties came and went>>> https://t.co/ddgM0MMfkt
— Susan Glasser (@sbg1) August 20, 2018

Clapper: Brennan's rhetoric

artappraiser — Mon, 20 Aug 2018 00:06:59 +0000

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Clapper: Brennan's rhetoric is becoming an issue

By Megan Keller @ TheHill.com - 08/19/18 10:36 AM EDT

Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said Sunday that he thinks former CIA Director John Brennan's rhetoric is becoming an issue "in and of itself."

"John and his rhetoric have become an issue in and of itself," Clapper said on CNN's "State of the Union." "John is subtle like a freight train and he’s gonna say what’s on his mind." [....]

Clapper said he empathized with Brennan, but voiced concerns for Brennan's fiery rhetoric toward Trump and his administration.

"I think that the common denominator among all of us [in the intelligence community] that have been speaking up … is genuine concern about the jeopardy and threats to our institutions," Clapper said.

Brennan's claims drew criticism from some in the intelligence community who said the timing was suspect [....]

Brennan considering legal

artappraiser — Sun, 19 Aug 2018 22:59:11 +0000

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Brennan considering legal action

@ Politico.com, Updated 08/19/2018 06:30 PM EDT

Former CIA Director John Brennan announced Sunday that he is willing to pursue legal action against President Donald Trump after his security clearance was revoked.

Brennan on NBC’s “Meet the Press” told Chuck Todd that he had “been contacted by a number of lawyers” who have given advice on the basis for complaint or an injunction to try to “prevent Trump from doing this in the future.” [.....]

here's the big rub about

artappraiser — Sat, 18 Aug 2018 19:10:24 +0000

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here's the big rub about Trump's jihad, in a nutshell, with his own defense, as well as with everything else, he goes rogue from his advisors, and regular citizens don't really know what he understands and what he doesn't

It is not clear that Mr. Trump appreciates the extent to which Mr. McGahn has cooperated with the special counsel. The president wrongly believed that Mr. McGahn would act as a personal lawyer would for clients and solely defend his interests to investigators, according to a person with knowledge of his thinking.

Excerpt from White House Counsel Has Cooperated Extensively With Mueller’s Obstruction Inquiry

McGahn thinking Trump was setting him up through Cobb/Dowd is exhibit 608 of someone thinking Trump is playing a long-term chess game instead of getting through the moment in front of him by hoping to end the probe quickly https://t.co/g0rA69t8ak
— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) August 18, 2018

Big picture related, I find myself increasingly appreciative of the former staff like Rex Tillerson trying to inform us that the explanation for his behavior is more that he's a moron, rather than a genius plotter. Then there's this that hit me from the profile of Jimmy and Rosalyn Carter in WaPo yesterday, what they said implying how destructive his lying is, to our system working as it should:

When Carter looks back at his presidency [.....]

“I always told the truth,” he says.

Carter has been notably quiet about President Trump. But on this night, two years into Trump’s term, he’s not holding back.

“I think he’s a disaster,” Carter says. “In human rights and taking care of people and treating people equal.”

“The worst is that he is not telling the truth, and that just hurts everything,” Rosalynn says.

Carter says his father taught him that truthfulness matters. He said that was reinforced at the U.S. Naval Academy, where he said students are expelled for telling even the smallest lie.

“I think there’s been an attitude of ignorance toward the truth by President Trump,” he says [....]