dagblog - Comments for "White Supremacy versus Identity Politics "

Afghanistan , Brazil, China

Flavius — Wed, 05 Sep 2018 17:56:00 +0000

In reply to White Supremacy versus Identity Politics

Afghanistan , Brazil, China and on and on through Myanmar,( Buddhist supremacy ?) and Venezuela to Zimbabwe practice non-white identity politics . It's called living.

The only ethnic groups to ever demonstrate how to not abuse power have been those without power to abuse.

People are the same all over.

No reason not to assist any group attempting to resist whatever identity group is currently oppressing them. Always attempt to fix whatever's wrong today.

Just don't imagine it'll stay fixed.

Eternal skepticism is the price of resisting whatever supremacy is oppressing you today.

It's a beach drive by

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 05 Sep 2018 03:09:49 +0000

In reply to If no one belongs,

It's a beach drive by
I just showed up to kick sand
in somebody's face.

We all belong

rmrd0000 — Wed, 05 Sep 2018 03:08:25 +0000

In reply to If no one belongs,

We all belong

But there is a quest for change

In the Democratic Party many are looking for new leaders

In NYC and now in Boston, the old guard has been replaced by ethnic minority women.

Pressley’s slogan

“The people closest to the pain should be closest to the power, driving and informing the policy making.”

https://www.essence.com/news/politics/ayanna-pressley-wins-the-massachusetts-7th-congressional-district-primary/

Here is Pressley tonight

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/04/us/politics/ayanna-pressley-massachusetts.html

“People who feel seen and heard for the first time in their lives, a stakehold in democracy and a promise for our future,” she said. “That is the real victory, that is bigger than any electoral victory. And I want to thank you all for being foot soldiers in this movement and for ushering in this change.”

If no one belongs,

barefooted — Wed, 05 Sep 2018 02:34:54 +0000

In reply to We either live here

If no one belongs,

Then I surely don't want it.

Whatever it is.

This loss of control. What

moat — Wed, 05 Sep 2018 00:40:36 +0000

In reply to When we discuss identity

This loss of control. What needs to be controlled?
I am not asking facetiously. What could help now better than any other thing?

When we discuss identity

rmrd0000 — Wed, 05 Sep 2018 00:26:50 +0000

In reply to We agree that police abuse is

When we discuss identity politics or cultural appropriation, there is pushback and dismissal. I would find pushback on Conservative websites as well. I see identity politics as something practiced by all groups, especially when it comes to politics. Appiah wrote a book about WeEB DuBois. DuBois was trained in Berlin and at Harvard. Appiah sees that as appropriation (my term, not his). In his analysis, DuBois was seeking a universal justice. I view DuBois as using the tools accepted by white society to argue for the dignity of blacks. DuBois co-founded the NAACP because their was a need for a group specifically advocating for blacks.

In cultural appropriation, I would be told that it was a ridiculous idea on Conservative websites. I see the discussion as being about a loss of control. The argument about braids is not about which pre-modern society wore braids, but about black men and women being criticized for wearing braids, white whites are praised. Limiting the argument to the entertainment industry, we see Zendaya equated to a druggies while Kendall Jenner is praised.

We agree that police abuse is

rmrd0000 — Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:57:15 +0000

In reply to Oh Jesus, this goes on and on

We agree that police abuse is bad. When it comes to whites calling police on blacks which has resulted in fatalities, however, we argue about confirming incidences are increasing rather than methods to keep blacks from having contact with police.

There was a suggestion that

rmrd0000 — Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:35:28 +0000

In reply to And mine has often

There was a suggestion that blacks who wanted their issues dealt with by Democrats were being selfish. Democrats needed to focus on white votes. That does not appear to be a unifying message.

We either live here

moat — Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:04:52 +0000

In reply to Together. Are we?

We either live here
or this is some other place
where no one belongs.

And mine has often

artappraiser — Tue, 04 Sep 2018 18:43:07 +0000

In reply to Oh Jesus, this goes on and on

And mine has often unashamedly been: it's counter-productive to preach like that here. Peracles' exasperation here is just one example of proof of point. What might be appropriate tactics in one milieu might be insulting in another.