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My retort was sarcasm. Yes,

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 11 Sep 2018 16:56:09 +0000

In reply to These Asian types are also

My retort was sarcasm. Yes, she's black Haitian/Japanese mostly raised in the US from 3-years-old, so a New Yorker (?) as well, so I also laughed at the "first Japanese..." celebration, especially since with a black father she wasn't terribly welcome in Japan. Some white woman from the US press bowed to her earlier; she politely bowed back.

These Asian types are also

rmrd0000 — Tue, 11 Sep 2018 16:14:43 +0000

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These Asian types are also black

From the HuffPost on whitewashing Osaka

Here is the bottom line: On Saturday, two talented tennis players ― one black, one Japanese and black ― played a deeply emotional game, and those emotions came brimming to the surface for a whole host of reasons.

But it wasn’t a matter of villain and victim, good and bad, black and white. Williams is an icon, a legend. And she’s a fallible and whole human being. Just as Osaka is more than just Japanese, more than tearful and endearingly apologetic. She’s a fierce competitor with a distinct personal history, not a symbol of acceptable blackness to weaponize against Williams

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-whitewashing-of-naomi-osaka_us_5b967eb3e4b0cf7b004209b5

You remember when Ghouliani

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 11 Sep 2018 15:16:38 +0000

In reply to Serena is not hampering Osaka

You remember when Ghouliani "offered" to stay on a few more months after 9/11 when Bloomberg was coming in? Or when Taylor was up on stage and Kanye hopped up with her? I think Osaka can handle it by herself, whatever someone else says. I know these Asian types seem shy and weak and need suppirt...

Serena is not hampering Osaka

rmrd0000 — Tue, 11 Sep 2018 14:00:33 +0000

In reply to Why does Naomi Osaka need

Serena is not hampering Osaka. In fact, as I noted above, Serena stopped the booing when Osaka took to the podium.Osaka has a great story. The Google allows you to cut through the stuff the MSM wants as a focus. At the same time, it appears that many black women sympathize with Serena.

Here are Osaka’s comments

Tilting her visor down, and with tears in her eyes, Osaka was comforted by the 36-year-old tennis great.

“I felt really happy because I sort of felt that she knew I was crying … It just made me happy overall.”

She said she was overwhelmed when her long-time sporting idol congratulated her during the post-match interview.

“She played an amazing match,” Williams conceded. “She deserved credit. She deserved to win.”

Osaka, who has lived in America since the age of 3 but represents the country of her birth, Japan, said she grew up following Williams’ career and even wrote a school paper about her in the third grade.

“I coloured it and everything,” she said. “I said, ‘I want to be like her.’

https://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis/naomi-osaka-on-serena-williams-matc...

Why does Naomi Osaka need

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 11 Sep 2018 13:18:38 +0000

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Why does Naomi Osaka need Serena Williams to "go through this"? She seems to be doing fine if Williams will let her proceed to the winner's circle.

I think Serena makes it more

rmrd0000 — Tue, 11 Sep 2018 12:51:35 +0000

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I think Serena makes it more difficult for umpires to apply a double standard when judging tennis matches

Serena’s comment

She later said, “I just feel like the fact that I have to go through this is just an example for the next person that has emotions, and that want to express themselves.”

She went on: “They’re going to be allowed to do that because of today. Maybe it didn’t work out for me, but it’s going to work out for the next person.”

In doing so, she opened new possibilities of black womanhood not just for Naomi Osaka, but also for my daughter and the millions of black girls and women who have watched how Williams has always been the target of policing over her hairstyle, tennis outfits and body shape, and recognize that she has been forced to be a permanent outsider in a sport over which she has long reigned.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/10/opinion/serena-williams-tennis-usopen.html

Why the discussion about Osaka benefiting from a stance on black womanhood? Naomi’s father is Haitian

https://people.com/sports/naomi-osaka-everything-to-know-about-us-open-c...

Edit to add:

Similar experessions of Black women identifying with Serena Williams

“A lot of things started going through my head in that particular situation. You know, first and foremost, what was going to be said about her the next day? The typical angry black woman, you know … when she really was just standing up for herself and she was standing up for women’s rights,” said former tennis champion Zina Garrison, who is black. “A woman, period, is always, when we speak up for ourselves, then you have the situation where people are saying, you know, they’re too outspoken. They’re acting like a man, all of that. But then a black woman on top of that, the angry black woman, who does she think she is?”

https://blackamericaweb.com/2018/09/11/black-women-can-relate-to-serena-williams-u-s-open-outrage-and-the-backlash-that-followed/

I'm sorry - someone of her

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 11 Sep 2018 07:22:10 +0000

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I'm sorry - someone of her stature should get a futon, not a pillow. Mea culpa.

I posted Martina Navratilova's response and it says it all - to paraphrase, "yes, there's plenty to fight about sexism & double standards on the court (and off), but Serena picked the wrong way to do it".

The example everyone came up with at first was distinctly wrong - that McEnroe had been disqualified and banned before, and rules have been toughened over the years to make players behave themselves.

I'm really gobsmacked that people think the umpire's job is to babysit players rather than make sure the game proceeds fairly. The example of a judge encouraging some male player with "you're better than this, let's get on with it" was unprofessional - the opposing player *builds* this kind of frustration as an advantage, or at least takes advantage of it - an umpire getting into the fray only tips the scales.

Okay, so players *usually* aren't given such penalties towards the end of a crucial match - yet players will try to take advantage of that custom as well, so we'll find a new point of acceptance, a new Overton Window of more equal but more outlandish on-court behavior. Maybe Serena can threaten the ump with a raised racquet next time rather than her wagging finger - she's never smashed anyone's head, so he shouldn't feel intimidated according to her acclaimed logic.

Enough - I'll let the millionaire sportsters fight it out among themselves - would rather hear what Kap & Eric have to say this week.

That's on me? FFS I don't

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 11 Sep 2018 07:11:53 +0000

In reply to Like any other sport,

That's on me? FFS I don't even watch tennis - I'm just responding to what her pout meltdown brought to the news - I thought Nike would gloat in the Kaepernick news this week, not having another of their stars lose it.

She can talk about foot rash or clinical psychology as well, I don't give a fuck - but it seems loony tied to a meltdown on a tennis court. "You ran into my car." "I have a daughter!" "Here's your summons for a hearing." "I have a daughter!" "Looks like a hurricane is going to bash the East Coast". "I have a daughter." I wish I'd thought of this non-sequitur earlier for getting out of exactly... nothing. I'm sure the fans at the stadium were really interested in her or my daughter that day.

I'm on board with ya, sounds

artappraiser — Mon, 10 Sep 2018 23:59:57 +0000

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I'm on board with ya, sounds like an excellent elitist idea! No more bread and circuses!

This anti-pro-sports person

ocean-kat — Mon, 10 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000

In reply to This anti-pro-sports person

This anti-pro-sports person would love to see a return or move to a world where so many people stopped watching sports that those who wanted to play got merely an adequate salary. None of this millions bullshit. But then, I'd like to see them start watching ballet and modern dance, quality rock, jazz, opera, or classical music. I'd like to see quality arts get enough interest to be well funded. So I guess you can just label me an elitist and be done with it.