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I slept naked with a female

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 02 Oct 2018 09:19:57 +0000

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I slept naked with a female for years - nothing beyond the usual petting. Occasionally a scratch behind her ears.

I would like to test myself

ocean-kat — Tue, 02 Oct 2018 06:54:43 +0000

I would like to test myself too. I feel confident I could successfully test my spirituality in greater ways than Gandhi. I propose that beautiful women sleep with me every night and I do have sex with them. But my spiritual being is so strong that I don't even enjoy it. As Gandhi believed sex existed only to procreate and never to enjoy my lack of enjoyment would be an even greater test and proof of my spirituality. I would assure you every morning that I was just going through the motions. Because I'm so spiritual you can trust that I'm being honest.

eta: All kidding aside I'd also like to push back on this notion that men are controlled by their biology. Lots of men resist lustful thoughts for extended periods of time without much difficulty. Most men could if they choose to. I and lots of men have been to nude beaches and nudist events were it would be considered gauche to walk around with an erection. Sex begins in the mind, the body follows. You simply don't think about sex when a naked women walks by. Its not hard. (pun intended) It's no different than not thinking about sex when you see an attractive clothed women. It's a bit unusual with naked women in social situations and might take a bit of getting used to but that sort of self control is easy.

Not only that at 60 Gandhi's sex drive was surely diminished and it's possible he couldn't get an erection and have sex even if he spent the night consumed by desire. Physical arousal is part of a feedback loop that starts in the mind. Break any link in that loop and control becomes much easier.

If you really want to get

artappraiser — Tue, 02 Oct 2018 05:54:02 +0000

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If you really want to get into deep thoughts over this, there's also the mind over matter, become a higher being than a slave to reproductive urges thingie:

How would Gandhi’s celibacy tests with naked women be seen today?

By Ian Jack @ TheGuardian.com, Oct. 1

[....] For several decades after his death, this episode was not widely known. Popular accounts of Gandhi’s life, including Richard Attenborough’s biopic, never mentioned it.The facts are that after his wife, Kasturba, died in 1944, Gandhi began the habit of sharing his bed with naked young women: his personal doctor, Sushila Nayar, and his grandnieces Abha and Manu, who were then in their late teens and about 60 years younger than him.

Gandhi hadn’t had a sexual relationship with a woman for 40 years. Nor, in any obvious way and so far as anyone can tell, did he begin one now. His conscious purpose in inviting naked women to share his bed was, paradoxically, to avoid having sex with them. They were there as a temptation: if he wasn’t aroused by their presence, he could be reassured he’d achieved brahmacharya, a Hindu concept of celibate self-control. According to Gandhi, a person who had such control was “one who never has any lustful intention, who by constant attendance upon God has become proof against conscious or unconscious emissions, who is capable of lying naked with naked women, however beautiful they may be, without being in any manner sexually excited”. Such a person, Gandhi wrote, would be incapable of lying or harming anyone.

Why was this so important to Gandhi at that time? Because he believed – fantastically, egotistically – that the Hindu-Muslim violence then sweeping India had some connection to his own failings [....]

Roman Catholic doctrine about priests and honoring celibate saints would agree....we know how that's working out lately

That's the point - he's just

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 02 Oct 2018 04:25:00 +0000

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That's the point - he's just cataloguing what people look for. All those little cookies add up into a persona, one search or visit at a time. Search, desire, want, infatuation, curiosity... what do these add up to. Even negative things we look up - they're strong enough for us to search for rather than ignore - they hold emotion points for us, feeding troughs for our psyches.

There's the story of the guy who went hunting, and a bear instead of killing him lays him out flat and fucks him. Humiliated, the hunter comes back the next year with better equipment, all prepared, but the same thing happens. So the guy goes back and gets all the high powered semi-autimatic, night vision stuff, but the bear still manages to sneak up on him. As the bear's ripping off the guy's hunting suit, he looks at the guy and remarks, "you're not coming here for the hunting, are you?"

I don't know about "don't

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 02 Oct 2018 04:16:51 +0000

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I don't know about "don't really want" - we want excitement, danger, but noot too much. Some S&M, some neglect tied to seduction tied to uncontrolled passion and then some normsalcy. Women's romance novels often had the rape fantasy - but if it's a common danger and occurrence, is it surprising to have paet of your game play, your adrenalin room?

And chances are really good

barefooted — Tue, 02 Oct 2018 01:27:05 +0000

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And chances are really good that it's impossible to be a "secret alcoholic" among your significant others, because part of being significant means being close enough to observe ...

I know you, my man.

You're the person that I love ...

(wait, let me google)

It's a funny thing but when

moat — Tue, 02 Oct 2018 01:12:55 +0000

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It's a funny thing but when my wife wants to know something, she asks me questions. If my answers don't tell her everything she wants to know, she observes me closely.
As far as I know, the method has been working for her.

From the link:

barefooted — Tue, 02 Oct 2018 01:00:46 +0000

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From the link (my bold):

Seth Stephens-Davidowitz

I think women are too obsessed with their husbands' sexuality. Women are eight times more likely to ask Google if their husband is gay than if he is an alcoholic and 10 times more likely to ask Google if their husband is gay than if he is depressed. It is far more likely that a woman is married to a man who is secretly an alcoholic or secretly depressed than secretly gay. About 98 percent of women’s husbands are really straight. Trust me.

How the hell would Google know?? And why should we trust this dude's assurance that it's 98%?

This whole article strikes me as at least as absurd as asking Google about your husband.

from deep within our

artappraiser — Mon, 01 Oct 2018 23:45:45 +0000

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from deep within our unconsciousness

I think about this part of it all a lot! I.E., theoretically if all systems were working optimally, we'd be attracted to the best DNA mix to throw into our own. So someone or something quite the opposite. And that's what the fantasies are about? On the other hand, when you actually get into it, a big part of actual sex is craving for physical intimacy, even men who want just one night stands are looking for touch skin to skin. Likewise, women who have infants lose desire, I think not just because of hormones but because the infant is providing physical intimacy to the point of too much. You lose yourself in the intimacy, it's just the two of you, the rest of the world shut out and that includes intense experience of orgasm where you want to feel safe with each other, not challenged by a totally different kind of person, with totally different DNA, from a tribe you are not necessarily comfortable with.

Thanks, I think the data is

ocean-kat — Mon, 01 Oct 2018 23:25:07 +0000

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Thanks, I think the data is there and it's more than just two anonymous people agreeing on the internet. What I'd really like to see is some psychological insight into why so many people fantasize about things they don't actually want manifested in reality.

The article contained some interesting information but we need to be careful in how broadly we use it. I've always felt it was sad that fat and older women were so often scorned as sexual companions. But a sad reality since sexual desire comes from deep within our unconsciousness and is almost impossible to change. Some of that is likely cultural programming and attempting to change the cultural programming would be a good thing still once programmed it's hard to change it. Even sadder if there are significant numbers who do feel sexual desire but current cultural attitudes stop them from following their desires. Sad for the men and the women.

This is a hard topic to discuss. Even though anonymous no one here really wants to discuss their fantasies or their sexual proclivities. I certainly don't. The hardest part of writing my comment is how to express my opinion convincingly while revealing as little as possible about my personal sexual or fantasy life. That is interesting in itself.