dagblog - Comments for "&#039;Grow Up&#039;: Orrin Hatch waves off female protestors demanding to speak with him" http://dagblog.com/link/grow-orrin-hatch-waves-female-protestors-demanding-speak-him-26354 Comments for "'Grow Up': Orrin Hatch waves off female protestors demanding to speak with him" en Mainers are going to be http://dagblog.com/comment/259475#comment-259475 <a id="comment-259475"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/259455#comment-259455">Mainers might represent the</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Mainers are going to be tortured with excessive political advertising about the 2020 Senate race:</p> <p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/06/susan-collins-announced-support-kavanaugh-causing-site-fund-future-opponent-crash/?utm_term=.372f61abfefd">Susan Collins announced support for Kavanaugh — causing site to fund future opponent to crash</a> @ WaPo</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 06 Oct 2018 19:12:15 +0000 artappraiser comment 259475 at http://dagblog.com Mainers might represent the http://dagblog.com/comment/259455#comment-259455 <a id="comment-259455"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/259451#comment-259451">I think there&#039;s some Avenatti</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Peracles, Mainers might represent the ideal mix of independents who would indeed give second thought to Swetnick's accusations as well as Avenatti's "brashness". So, well calculated.</p> <p>But what a cheap lie and gutless performance by Collins.</p> <p>Worst of all, in quipping "Avenatti made me do it" she insulted the great <em>laconic</em> tradition among Mainers, which is not used in service of bold faced lies but in enduring rural wisdom---like, "You can't get there from here".</p> <p>In any case, let's stick to Democratic candidates who, in a relentless media dominated world, can't deliver a line.  </p> </div></div></div> Sat, 06 Oct 2018 14:40:20 +0000 Oxy Mora comment 259455 at http://dagblog.com I think there's some Avenatti http://dagblog.com/comment/259451#comment-259451 <a id="comment-259451"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/259429#comment-259429">Nate Silver queried Avenatti</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I think there's some Avenatti hate on the left (they hate it when someone wins or talks with certainty), so the chaos monkeys are stoking it. Imagine, Avenatti threatens to run for president - isn't that slot reserved for Bernie or Kamila or Ocasio or _ _ _ _?</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 06 Oct 2018 09:11:49 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 259451 at http://dagblog.com  Maintaining civility is more http://dagblog.com/comment/259437#comment-259437 <a id="comment-259437"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/259413#comment-259413">I tend to agree.  Where it</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> Maintaining civility is more than  required. Deploying  hostile signs ,for example is  uncivil  but OK . Violence or  its threat marks  the no-go point. Not because it's counter productive ; because it's bad.</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 06 Oct 2018 00:46:16 +0000 Flavius comment 259437 at http://dagblog.com How will there be less 5-4 http://dagblog.com/comment/259435#comment-259435 <a id="comment-259435"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/259433#comment-259433">Ah but I think Collins more</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>How will there be less 5-4 decisions? All the decisions where Kennedy would vote with the conservatives  Kavanaugh will vote with the conservatives. Most of the decisions where Kennedy would vote with the liberals Kavanaugh will vote with the conservatives. There will be the same amount of 5-4 decisions but  less of the 5-4 decisions will be won by liberals. This is not some brilliant insight of mine. It's fucking obvious that will happen. You have to be a brain dead moron not to see that and Collins isn't a brain dead moron. She knows that will happen and she's lying about it.</p> <p>It is possible she believes Kavanaugh won't over turn Roe. It's possible that she's right about that. It's more likely that Kavanaugh will vote to overturn Roe and Roberts will save it to protect the integrity of the court. The most likely scenario is Kavanaugh joins the most conservative jurists and Roberts becomes the "swing vote" on the court. But a much more conservative swing vote than Kennedy.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 05 Oct 2018 21:55:07 +0000 ocean-kat comment 259435 at http://dagblog.com The headline should read: http://dagblog.com/comment/259436#comment-259436 <a id="comment-259436"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/259434#comment-259434">Reuters just reposted this</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The headline should read:</p> <p>Collins flaps jaw to no effect once again</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 05 Oct 2018 21:41:20 +0000 ocean-kat comment 259436 at http://dagblog.com Reuters just reposted this http://dagblog.com/comment/259434#comment-259434 <a id="comment-259434"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/259433#comment-259433">Ah but I think Collins more</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Reuters just reposted this old story about Collins supporting Garland on Twitter's "Top News," with photo of the two of them, apparently to back up her argument that the process has gone to hell</p> <p><a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-garland/republican-collins-urges-u-s-senate-hearings-on-high-court-pick-idUSKCN0X228I">Republican Collins' call for Garland hearings spurned</a></p> <p>By Richard Cowan, April 5, 2016</p> <blockquote> <p>WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A moderate Republican senator heaped praise on President Barack Obama’s U.S. Supreme Court nominee on Tuesday, bucking Senate Republican leaders who promptly dismissed her call for confirmation hearings.</p> <p>Susan Collins of Maine became only the second Republican senator to meet with Merrick Garland since Obama nominated the centrist appellate judge last month to fill the court vacancy left by the Feb. 13 death of Justice Antonin Scalia.</p> <p>The hourlong meeting came as Republican senators face mounting pressure from conservative activists to go along with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s plan to block any nominee chosen by Obama.</p> <p>“The meeting left me more convinced than ever that the process should proceed. The next step, in my view, should be public hearings before the Judiciary Committee,” Collins told reporters.</p> <p>About two hours later, McConnell told reporters: “It’s safe to say there will not be hearings or votes” on Garland.</p> <p>McConnell and Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley have said Obama’s successor, who will be elected on Nov. 8 and take office on Jan. 20, should fill Scalia’s vacancy [....]</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Fri, 05 Oct 2018 21:31:53 +0000 artappraiser comment 259434 at http://dagblog.com Ah but I think Collins more http://dagblog.com/comment/259433#comment-259433 <a id="comment-259433"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/259430#comment-259430">She gets it.  Clearly the</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Ah but I think Collins more than gets it, too. Most of her speech nearly an hour of legal references to supposedly prove how Kavanaugh has been incorrectly smeared as being prejudiced on issues of interest to women, point by point by point talking about his philosophy and rulings, including abortion. (And blaming that smearing happened because we've hit partisan rock bottom on confirmation process now, ala Senator Graham). She actually said that after studying Kavanaugh's record, she believes he will be an important bridge on the Supreme Court and cause fewer 5-4 decisions. As if she thought to go to another on the short list would be a step down.</p> <p>Even better proof she made a stage set for that female issue speech by making sure there were two women behind her on the teevee:</p> <div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>This is very carefully produced TV by Collins —&gt; <a href="https://t.co/WiyYcQZkyU">https://t.co/WiyYcQZkyU</a></p> — Kasie Hunt (@kasie) <a href="https://twitter.com/kasie/status/1048293778564571137?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 5, 2018</a></blockquote> </div> <p>and for news junkies who pay attention to detail,more optics:  this morning before her speech, sexual assault survivors were invited to her office to tell their stories:</p> <div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>Survivors of sexual assault are delivering tearful speeches in Susan Collins’s Capitol office. One woman says this month is the first time she’s ever come close to talking about being assaulted. <a href="https://t.co/2mU1XIdiNE">pic.twitter.com/2mU1XIdiNE</a></p> — Daniel Dale (@ddale8) <a href="https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1048257168720506880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 5, 2018</a></blockquote> </div> <p>I really believe that she thinks that.Kavanaugh will not hurt women's nor assault survivors' causes, she argued that all through her speech. And I believe she believes Kavanaugh has been incorrectly characterized. Make no mistake she is a believer that a conservative reading of the Constitution is best for all, this wasn't a cynical decision. Rather it was cynical on her side to worry about what swing vote sympathizers of #Metoo might think and try to ameliorate that and court them with these activities.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 05 Oct 2018 21:24:01 +0000 artappraiser comment 259433 at http://dagblog.com I don't believe Avenatti http://dagblog.com/comment/259432#comment-259432 <a id="comment-259432"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/259420#comment-259420">Interesting live comments on</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I don't believe Avenatti helped or hurt the process. He's just a story line republicans use to give themselves cover. If it was just about Avenatti they would have fully investigated Ramirez's claim and the twenty names she gave the FBI to support it. </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 05 Oct 2018 20:56:51 +0000 ocean-kat comment 259432 at http://dagblog.com Seems like a mostly empty http://dagblog.com/comment/259431#comment-259431 <a id="comment-259431"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/259419#comment-259419">a veiled threat:</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Seems like a mostly empty threat to me. The last time Murkowski was primaried and lost she ran a write in campaign and won. </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 05 Oct 2018 20:39:56 +0000 ocean-kat comment 259431 at http://dagblog.com