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Nobody blamed Friedman. He

NCD — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 22:23:02 +0000

In reply to My issue was blaming Friedman

Nobody blamed Friedman. He was just a bit too Pollyanna about Salman in some people's opinions.

Friedman has already responded : Saudi Arabia stands accused of killing him. If it did, it will be a disaster for the regime of Mohammed bin Salman:

I went on to explain that I never believed that democracy was on the M.B.S. agenda — he was not trying to create Denmark .....Each M.B.S. action, I concluded, ”may have been individually justifiable, but taken together they suggest that he’s lost the plot; he’s creating more uncertainty than respect.’’

My issue was blaming Friedman

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 17:45:07 +0000

In reply to None of those murders were in

My issue was blaming Friedman for this, not debating whether it was a Putin-like move on MBS's part.

None of those murders were in

NCD — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 17:38:38 +0000

In reply to Ok, folks, let's get real -

None of those murders were in the nation's own embassy in a foreign country.

An anonymous hit in a hotel, on the street from unknown assailant is more civilized.

Even the Nazis didn't lure people in and murder them, in the diplomatic privileged ground of their foreign embassies.

If true it shows Salman is so dumb, power drunk and impetuous he thought they could get by with it, saying "he left embassy".

K's fiance and famly waited outside for 11 hours as K told them, if I don't come out report it.

Ok, folks, let's get real -

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 16:55:24 +0000

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Ok, folks, let's get real - how many people did Egypt kill while we were working out Arab Spring, how many did Israelis kill secretly and publicly in our years of peace process, how many did Qaddafi kill while we were trying to get him to change direction post-9/11, how many did Iraq's leadership kill during the years of civil war and rebuilding, how many has our NATO ally Erdogan killed in consolidating power these last 4 years, how many did Bush's team kill post-911 at Gitmo and Al Ghraib and Bagghram that Kavanaugh helped cover up and how many Yemeni civilians did Saudis kill with air strikes before we got upset over this one death...? Friedman's often an asshat, but I'm holding my breath too hoping MBS's actions would signal a turn towards greater openness and democracy and economics and efficiency, a major economic and cultural turning point rather than the criminal collusion with UAE and Israel and Russia et al.

Thanks, very biting replies!

NCD — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 16:00:19 +0000

In reply to there's lots of tweeted

Thanks, very biting replies!

TF: block, block, block, block......go on NYT book leave.

Rick Wilson gives hot tip to

artappraiser — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 15:46:27 +0000

In reply to Turkey's saying Saudis

Rick Wilson gives hot tip to Sen. Graham on Khashoggi:

Tell Jared. https://t.co/17tx5P9FQZ
— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) October 8, 2018

there's lots of tweeted

artappraiser — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 10:09:57 +0000

In reply to Somebody tweet Freidman:

there's lots of tweeted replies along those lines and stronger to the Oct.7 tweet

Thomas, is this your way to avoiding embarrassment for having been the PR agent of the Saudis? Was it worth the money? pic.twitter.com/n9SmkxGr1z
— Anthony Alexi (@alexi4321) October 7, 2018

Saudis pay their PR agents handsomely
— (@ThawrAnas) October 7, 2018

Blood on your hands, Tom. But you already have so much that I doubt the death of one friend will engender any introspection.
— probably the devil (@emakbakia_) October 7, 2018

What is your favorite new color of you've been had? Zionism doesn't count as its your natural deadly skin tone.
— Stanley Cohen (@StanleyCohenLaw) October 7, 2018

You lauded the Saudi 'reform process' of M.B.S. November of last year https://t.co/AHPPTUPzI4 I presume he failed to tell you that one of his 'reforms' involved the torture and murder of journalists who opposed him
— Andy Birss (@1957AJB) October 7, 2018

Somebody tweet Freidman:

NCD — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 02:52:21 +0000

In reply to oops there is more than one,

Somebody tweet Freidman:

1. Neither Trump or Jared give a crap about this guy.

2. He's not going to be released because he is dead.

3. Saudi economic reform will fail no matter what.

oops there is more than one,

artappraiser — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 02:07:37 +0000

In reply to Waiting for NYT Freidman on

oops there is more than one Friedman tweet on topic, it's just that the other two are from Friday before the Turk news:

Directly addressing Trump, Kushner, looks like he has not got a satisfactory answer?

Trump, Kushner. I don’t usually tweet opinions, but here goes: you need to get the Saudis to find/release Jamal Khashoggi. Without constructive critics like him, Saudi econ reform will fail.
— Thomas L. Friedman (@tomfriedman) October 5, 2018

and this

Everyone needs to read column in Washington Post today by my friend Jamal Khashoggi. It is missing -- like he is. https://t.co/QMmyi42wRR
— Thomas L. Friedman (@tomfriedman) October 5, 2018

I see one tweet, sounds like

artappraiser — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 01:51:35 +0000

In reply to Waiting for NYT Freidman on

I see one tweet, sounds like avoidance until he has more info., methinks, doesn't want to be made an ass once again?

President Trump must ask Saudis to give full and credible account of what happened to Jamal Khashoggi inside their Istanbul consulate. And tell us what he knows too.
— Thomas L. Friedman (@tomfriedman) October 7, 2018