dagblog - Comments for "Birthright Citizenship is Important" http://dagblog.com/birthright-citizenship-important-26589 Comments for "Birthright Citizenship is Important" en That said, if this guy has http://dagblog.com/comment/261315#comment-261315 <a id="comment-261315"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/261314#comment-261314">Fear of what Trump might be</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>That said, if this guy has gone nihilist about the Trump coverage situation, I don't know what we can do to help:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">My <a href="https://twitter.com/Acosta?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Acosta</a> take. Neither decorum nor escalation work. Nothing does. Show up, and you have become a hate object. Don't show up, you have ceded ground. Trump has the power to break it, and he broke it. There is no right response. There's just him, the destroyer of things. Scorpion.</p> — Jay Rosen (@jayrosen_nyu) <a href="https://twitter.com/jayrosen_nyu/status/1060694132472119296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 9, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Fri, 09 Nov 2018 01:06:31 +0000 artappraiser comment 261315 at http://dagblog.com Fear of what Trump might be http://dagblog.com/comment/261314#comment-261314 <a id="comment-261314"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/birthright-citizenship-important-26589">Birthright Citizenship is Important</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Fear of what Trump might be able to do affects his ability to drive the media narrative to his own narcissist ends. This made me think about how we all need to think about how we are complicit, and that's why I am posting this interchange here:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">To those media outlets who covered extensively the " the invading caravan" before the election-- sometimes on page one -- but now have completely dropped reporting on this alleged national security threat, realize how badly Trump played you &amp; don't repeat.</p> — Michael McFaul (@McFaul) <a href="https://twitter.com/McFaul/status/1060574566282493952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 8, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">I agree it's complicated. Report the news of the President statements. Dont publish a photo of a "caravan" if its an assessment of the reporters that's its not a legitimate national security threat. What a paper decides to put on page one is an editorial decision. <a href="https://t.co/zTStOtV3CG">https://t.co/zTStOtV3CG</a></p> — Michael McFaul (@McFaul) <a href="https://twitter.com/McFaul/status/1060597732870483968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 8, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 09 Nov 2018 00:45:19 +0000 artappraiser comment 261314 at http://dagblog.com Repost this from the time http://dagblog.com/comment/261072#comment-261072 <a id="comment-261072"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/261071#comment-261071">It&#039;s good that you brought</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Repost this from the time just a couple months ago when Peter played "1984 Ministry of Truth employee, Republican Style."</p> <p>Recall FDR was a Democrat:</p> <p>The "America First' movement and the isolationist Republican Party led by Idaho Republican William Borah opposed sending Britain aircraft or weapons for defense. The right wing Republican isolationist  "MAGA" crowd of the 30's in America were FDR's major challenge in stopping Hitler.</p> <p>From the book Roosevelt's Second Act, by Richard Moe, on the <strong>Republican platform of 1940</strong>, and<strong> </strong>H. L. Mencken's evaluation of how weak and sleazy it was on helping the democracies. Note the Republican platform statement was copied almost word for word from an isolationist newspaper advertisement placed covertly by Nazi agents in US papers.</p> <blockquote> <p>GOP Platform, 1940:</p> <p>“We favor the extension of aid to all people fighting for liberty or whose liberty is threatened,” the final compromise read, “as long as such aid is not in violation of international law or inconsistent with the requirements of our national defense.”</p> <p>The acerbic Baltimore journalist H. L. Mencken observed that it was <strong>“so written that it will fit both the triumph of democracy and the collapse of democracy, and approve both the sending of arms to England and sending only flowers.” </strong>It would be revealed years later that the language had been lifted almost verbatim from an ad that had appeared in the New York Times and other papers over the names of isolationist congressmen, written and paid for by Nazi agents.</p> </blockquote> <p>Isolationist right wing America First marchers in NYC parading with American flags and swastikas. These are real "Nazi adorers". They are not FDR supporters.</p> <p><img alt="" height="360" src="https://thumbs-prod.si-cdn.com/m36AAbPqAOfDuNmh8vgZa1nb8lw=/800x600/filters:no_upscale()/https://public-media.smithsonianmag.com/filer/b3/02/b3028505-ffab-4357-b6c1-61d78c7ed5a9/bund_parade.jpg" width="500" /></p> </div></div></div> Mon, 05 Nov 2018 17:06:01 +0000 NCD comment 261072 at http://dagblog.com It's good that you brought http://dagblog.com/comment/261071#comment-261071 <a id="comment-261071"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/260837#comment-260837">Of course his threat was</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>[Deleted - not going to be a platform for Trump disinfo - Peter, if you want to post like a grownup, please do - otherwise I'm of the mind to just delete everything you submit, as it's going nowhere - PP]</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 05 Nov 2018 16:06:00 +0000 Peter comment 261071 at http://dagblog.com While it is true that you can http://dagblog.com/comment/261065#comment-261065 <a id="comment-261065"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/260837#comment-260837">Of course his threat was</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>While it is true that you can't overturn an amendment with an executive order, my guess is that much of the population knows little about citizenship. For example, I keep hearing the argument that all the illegals should just go apply for citizenship.</p> <p>The lack of birthright citizenship was one of the key policies to maintain slavery -  the children of slaves could not become citizens and escape slavery.</p> <p>It is clear that one of the major policy threads is to "whiten" the United States. He even expelling documented immigrants, violating international human rights by ignoring asylum claims, and shutting down immigration form various countries. These are all straight from the supremacy playbook, Unfortunately, he seems to be getting by with way too much because the Republicans are providing no oversight at all.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 05 Nov 2018 05:35:38 +0000 librewolf comment 261065 at http://dagblog.com More on the same: http://dagblog.com/comment/261054#comment-261054 <a id="comment-261054"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/261016#comment-261016">severe criticism of Axios by</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>More on the same, and Swan mea culpas:</p> <div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>.<a href="https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@jonathanvswan</a>’s much-criticized reaction to TRUMP’s revelation about ending birthright citizenship was prompted by “authentic surprise,” he wrote to colleagues, adding “I wish I could redo that moment.” <a href="https://t.co/69LEBoQMau">https://t.co/69LEBoQMau</a></p> — Kenneth P. Vogel (@kenvogel) <a href="https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/1059234243228917760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 5, 2018</a></blockquote> </div> </div></div></div> Mon, 05 Nov 2018 00:01:26 +0000 artappraiser comment 261054 at http://dagblog.com severe criticism of Axios by http://dagblog.com/comment/261016#comment-261016 <a id="comment-261016"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/birthright-citizenship-important-26589">Birthright Citizenship is Important</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><a href="https://newrepublic.com/minutes/152005/axios-distillation-political-journalisms-worst-instincts">severe criticism of Jonathan Swan and Axios by Alex Shepard @ The New Republic for feeding the troll on this whole thing</a>, even includes the implication that they did it for mercenary reasons, to pump their HBO show.</p> <p>excerpt:</p> <blockquote> <p>As Splinter’s Libby Watson <a href="https://splinternews.com/jonathan-swan-is-a-bootlicker-1830095400" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">wrote</a> on Tuesday, it was a moment that encapsulated a news outlet that privileged a smug sense of being “in the know” over meaningful reporting. </p> <p>This snafu was very much on the brain of Reddit users when Swan’s bosses, Axios founders Mike Allen and Jim VandeHei, <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/9taeqi/were_jim_vandehei_and_mike_allen_founders_of/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">did an AMA</a>(Ask Me Anything) on the site on Thursday. Asked repeatedly about their organization’s <a href="https://newrepublic.com/article/142441/axios-donald-trump-made">commitment to access journalism</a>, Allen and Vandehei got defensive.</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Sat, 03 Nov 2018 07:15:24 +0000 artappraiser comment 261016 at http://dagblog.com Thanks for this! http://dagblog.com/comment/260972#comment-260972 <a id="comment-260972"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/260950#comment-260950">Lawfare has filed FOIA</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Thanks for this!</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 02 Nov 2018 16:54:11 +0000 Michael Maiello comment 260972 at http://dagblog.com Lawfare has filed FOIA http://dagblog.com/comment/260950#comment-260950 <a id="comment-260950"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/birthright-citizenship-important-26589">Birthright Citizenship is Important</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Lawfare has filed FOIA requests to access <em>current</em> D.O.J. opinions on topic (they have already gone over all the past, of course). I surmise this is to make sure that there is not anyone there on board with the wacko president:</p> <div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>"What Does the Justice Department Think About Birthright Citizenship?," the latest from Scott R. Anderson and Benjamin Wittes: <a href="https://t.co/UtTfyIayU2">https://t.co/UtTfyIayU2</a></p> — Lawfare (@lawfareblog) <a href="https://twitter.com/lawfareblog/status/1058084932826873856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 1, 2018</a></blockquote> </div> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 02 Nov 2018 00:18:30 +0000 artappraiser comment 260950 at http://dagblog.com Of course his threat was http://dagblog.com/comment/260837#comment-260837 <a id="comment-260837"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/260832#comment-260832">I think I&#039;m with Josh</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Of course his threat was particularly timed for election reasons as AA has pointed out.</p> <p>Sad. One thinks of The Ship of Fools. 1938, left Hamburg, got here. Prevented from disembarking in Miami so sailed back and into the camps.</p> <p>When will we ever learn?</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 31 Oct 2018 15:01:00 +0000 Flavius comment 260837 at http://dagblog.com