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Roger Stone reveals he talked

artappraiser — Sat, 03 Nov 2018 23:10:26 +0000

In reply to Mueller probes Roger Stone’s interactions with Trump campaign and timing of WikiLeaks release of Podesta emails

Roger Stone reveals he talked to Trump campaign about WikiLeaks in 2016

@ CNN.com, Updated 6:43 AM ET, Fri November 2, 2018

and this one, how does one

artappraiser — Sat, 03 Nov 2018 23:07:05 +0000

In reply to a link just for you, Peter

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and this one, how does one

artappraiser — Sat, 03 Nov 2018 23:03:36 +0000

In reply to a link just for you, Peter

and this one, how does one with your opinions explain this?

New: Roger Stone has amended his House Intelligence Committee testimony THREE separate times since last year as new reports have emerged about his ties to WikiLeaks. But he’s still vulnerable to a perjury charge if Mueller determines he lied to Congress. https://t.co/624XfJcvEb
— Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) November 3, 2018

You apparently don't like

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 03 Nov 2018 19:07:00 +0000

In reply to The fake news media spun a

You apparently don't like reading my posts.
1) Cohen was in Italy that summer (from which he could have gone to Prague unstamped), and we don't know if he had another passport - rather common. In any case, Cohen's talking to Mueller, so Mueller knows, & will use accordingly. The LA claim was false, as stamped GPS info shows Cohen wasn't in LA, so try again.
2) 90%+ of convictions are pleaded without going to trial. No one can be certain that 90% of convictions weren't innocent people, but Occam's Razor says "Don't be an ass".
3) the Steele dossier wasn't evidence - it was raw intelligence - some true, untrue, some likely Russian-fed disinfo et al. We're 2 years past the Steele Dossier - keep up!!! The rest of the class has no trouble with assignments!!!
4) Note that most Mafia convictions are "guilt by association". Certainly doesn't invalidate them. Evidence is evidence, whether Peter (not verified) likes it or not - all that matters is *A JURY* finds it convincing. (And they did in Manafort's case.) Or that it's convincing enough for the accused to plead (and the rest did).
5) and yes, Capone was convicted on tax fraud, not murder, just like many gangbangers were convicted on marijuana charges, not murder and heavy dealing. While I hate the prosecution of recreational users, I certainly don't mind them convicting guys who prey on the weak - do you?

The fake news media spun a

Peter — Sat, 03 Nov 2018 18:17:03 +0000

In reply to I shouldn't, but...

The fake news media spun a weak but spicy Bourne Deception type scenario to place Cohen in Prague when he has witnesses he was in LA with his son at that time. He also displayed his passport which showed he was never in Prague and more importantly never left the US during the timeline in question, debunking the fake news. No evidence of multiple passports or anything else has been released to debunk his proven story except that another unrelated Michael Cohen may have been in Prague at that time, true story! No one can be certain that Cohen would have been convicted in a trial for the crimes he supposedly committed and by accepting the plea deal he avoided financial ruin and a possible longer sentence which is why even innocent people sometimes plead guilty to crimes they didn't commit. I don't like Cohen he is slime and he could be guilty of those crimes but the Steele dossier is a urine soaked fraud/smear with Crooked Hilary's slimy prints all over it. When Mueller's report comes out in a month or so we can revisit this saga and I imagine you will be left with nothing but guilt by association, rumors and fake news reports to feed your TDS.

I shouldn't, but...

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 03 Nov 2018 08:19:25 +0000

In reply to Art, if you linked less and

I shouldn't, but... convicting real people of real crimes before a real jury is not "ruining a few more people" - it's upholding the law.
Considering Cohen denied many things, but now has pled guilty and is cooperating with Mueller - em, proof it's not a witchhunt. Cohen denied many many things before he flipped. Are you trying to say he really didn't break multiple laws as a scumbag lawyer for decades, that he just rolled over for no reason? Join reality, Peter. Manafort was convicted, despite the judge greatly limiting testimony, and still had another trial set for easier-to-convict stuff. Another just "ruining a life" for someone who hid millions in income from all over the world?

Whether Cohen was in Prague or not - Mueller didn't release this info, but his story was not "easily debunked", as 1) most trips to Prague are via elsewhere in the Shengen region, so will have non-Czech customs stamps. Showing a passport with Italian stamps, for example, doesn't preclude then flying to Prague with *NO* customs to go through.

2) in this case the sources say via Germany - but many of the characters around Trump have multiple passports, so again, showing 1 precludes nothing else.

a link just for you, Peter

artappraiser — Sat, 03 Nov 2018 06:19:44 +0000

In reply to Art, if you linked less and

a link just for you, Peter

Rather than the

Flavius — Sat, 03 Nov 2018 04:04:25 +0000

In reply to Art, if you linked less and

Rather than the investigations of Flynn, Papadopolous, and Cohen having been debunked as Mueller's desperate attempts to ruin them, in fact they were found guilty. If you were sleeping that day, you can look it up.

Or do you claim that in their cases, the legal system has failed ?.That they were innocent despite their admissions of guilt? My guess is you mostly believe our legal system works.Why do you think it failed in their cases? Or do you?

Or that you think their guilt doesn't matter?

If you're interested to enter a serious discussion, give it a try?

Do yourself a favor ,however , should you admit that- in their case- a fact is a fact ( if so, good for you!)

there were other more guilty (snow flakes ?)who should be prosecuted: Hillary ?Soros? that secret immigrant, Obama? Dr Ford ? The Wizard of Oz?

You seem rational enough so my guess were you maintain the guilt of Hill , the Wizard et al

you'd know their guilt wouldn't be grounds for pardoning Flynn, Papa and Cohen.

Or do you think that guilt doesn't matter. In the case of Democrats? Just convict them and skip this legal folderol.

Just wondering.

why in the world would I even

artappraiser — Sat, 03 Nov 2018 02:32:39 +0000

In reply to Art, if you linked less and

why in the world would I even take a moment to take seriously what a "Peter not verified" says on the internet. A guy who won't even bother to register for this website to prove I.D. A guy without the qualifications of reporters Peter Stone and Greg Gordon, and nowhere near the qualifications of story retweeter Maggie Haberman and story recommender Adam Goldman, both from a competing publication, both publications following strict rules about anonymous sourcing. A guy not willing to even bother to cite any background for his suggestion

This whole thread says: Mueller jig far from "up". Lotsa different sources Not just one Peter anonymouse on internet.

You should try it sometime: one story, different sources, compare and contrast, you might learn somethin' that would enable you to alleviate your suffering from the disease of bias confirmation.

Art, if you linked less and

Peter — Sat, 03 Nov 2018 02:10:03 +0000

In reply to Sources: Mueller has evidence

Art, if you linked less and learned more you would remember that this was an easily debunked flaming example of fake news like much of the witch-hunt narrative. The jig is up for Mueller and he seems to be desperate to ruin a few more people before he fades away.