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A reminder: they can

artappraiser — Sat, 17 Nov 2018 05:58:17 +0000

In reply to It's Very Important That Democrats Not Overreach

A reminder: they can overreach all they want as long as it's about health care. All the other stuff everyone is yammering about is more iffy:

42% of voters said health care was #1 issue & they favored Dems by 52 pts, per @sahilkapur https://t.co/lVgdQ3r8Cl

Still not sure everybody grasps what health care meant for this election -- or what this election meant for health care. So one more time... https://t.co/y8EGvAzcjm
— Jonathan Cohn (@CitizenCohn) November 12, 2018

I'm waiting to see if Crazy

artappraiser — Sun, 11 Nov 2018 08:04:27 +0000

In reply to Will $ean Hannity give the

I'm waiting to see if Crazy Dana gets an offer from Fox or will have to settle for RT..

Yglesias doing what he does

artappraiser — Sun, 11 Nov 2018 07:29:32 +0000

In reply to It's Very Important That Democrats Not Overreach

Yglesias doing what he does best: logical,rational look at reality.

Will $ean Hannity give the

NCD — Sun, 11 Nov 2018 04:13:47 +0000

In reply to Where there is no need to

Will $ean Hannity give the losing Republicans jobs on his show?

Where there is no need to

artappraiser — Sun, 11 Nov 2018 03:11:25 +0000

In reply to It's Very Important That Democrats Not Overreach

Where there is no need to talk about overreach anymore, from Cook Political Report U.S. House editor:

For decades, Orange County was seen as the embodiment of modern suburban conservatism, but those days are apparently over. Wow. https://t.co/qQfbqqmbs3
— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) November 10, 2018

"Reagan Dem" central is lost! "Breaking" tweets explaining why here and here and here

another summary tweet:

Once CA results are finalized & Maine ranked-choice vote is calculated, this could easily end up being a *39* seat Dem gain in the House. If provisionals erase an 890 vote R margin in #GA07, could even hit +40, but unlikely.
— Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) November 10, 2018

I thought everyone realized

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 10 Nov 2018 06:48:30 +0000

In reply to PP, I was taken with the meme

I thought everyone realized Texas is the Southwest, that they do ranching mire than farming, that they wear cowboy hats because they have longhorns, not dairy cattle, and they deal with water issues that define much of the land west of the Mississippi (plus big, flat, dry).

Plus they have a shorter history, stole their land as ungrateful settlers, lived by the gun of the uncontrolled cavalry (read Corman McCarthy's Blood Meridian for an unflattering portrayal of the Mexican Wars), and are much less defined by genteel cotton plantations / slaveowners butting up against Louisiana/Arkansas than the Hispanic cum Conquistador culture of the West.

and ta-da, just saw, always

artappraiser — Fri, 09 Nov 2018 19:40:09 +0000

In reply to PP, I was taken with the meme

and ta-da, just saw, always glad to see ol' Ed thinking along same lines:

The evolution of southern Democrats from the old Blue Dog model to something quite different has taken a big leap this year. https://t.co/Dg1C8ZgSE9
— Ed Kilgore (@ed_kilgore) November 9, 2018

here's another outside-the

artappraiser — Fri, 09 Nov 2018 19:30:49 +0000

In reply to PP, I was taken with the meme

here's another outside-the-usual-partisan box interesting twitter thread by libertarian economist, adviser to Sen. Lee of Utah, includes argument that white anxiety is misread and that the wealth difference between black and white needs to be fixed for the whole system to work. Sums up that his is not all a wildly helpful perspective, I know. But sometimes the correct narrative isn't politically convenient. I think he means not helpful to classic GOP memes.

Cavaet: Michael's not gonna like it because at one point he refers to agreeing with a David Brooks op-ed.

PP, I was taken with the meme

artappraiser — Fri, 09 Nov 2018 19:06:44 +0000

In reply to "Pride of place" =

PP, I was taken with the meme because it explains populist tendencies, not because it explains whether that type will vote Republican or Democrat. The figures don't surprise me at all. Actually, it surprises me that the "born in Texas" vote for Beto wasn't higher. Cruz has become the ultimate DC swamp insider, willing to pander to the current heads of this party past the point of humiliating himself. Beto clearly ran the type of campaign to appeal to "pride of place", as the Cruz counter-talking-points clearly showed. Cruz ops showed Beto was dangerous to Cruz on that front by counter attacking precisely that meme, trying to brand him as carpetbagger coming in with Hollywood money and Hollywood cuisine. You figures showed that didn't work very well, confirming my impression that Cruz is the one who is coming across as a foreigner now. I can't see how anyone could see him as a tried and true Texan, actually.

Edit to add: but if you don't like it, here's the classic alternative explanation, hah:

The South won't start to vote for Democrats because of nonwhite/Hispanic voting. It will start to vote for Democrats if the Southern suburbs start to vote like Northern suburbs. https://t.co/bgBdDZn4sG
— Sean T at RCP (@SeanTrende) November 8, 2018

Myself, I think that may not ever happen in Texas. I don't think it has ever thought exactly like the rest of the South, either. It acts like it's own country, has extremely strong "pride of place," maybe the strongest pride of place of all he states, like night and day between it and like, Alabama, Arkansas or Mississippi. Just because they've voted the same recently doesn't mean they are or ever were the same, at all.

What I do see here is the real problem of a two-party system.This state is so strong it hasn't really fit in with either party ever. To Texans, LBJ and Ann Richards were tough Texans, not lily livered libruls

That maybe many of those

Michael Wolraich — Fri, 09 Nov 2018 18:58:27 +0000

In reply to You joke, but I was just

That maybe many of those outside those little blue areas prefer to keep Dems away from federal power because they tend to overreach with the federal programs and bureaucracy and also give preference to the small urban pocket areas.

Late to this. AA, that's a very simplistic and, dare I say, Republican reading of what's happening. There is no inherent incompatibility between rural interests and federal power. Most of those now-red rural areas were quite enthusiastic about federal programs for most of the 20th century. The overbearing government you describe is a deliberate caricature crafted by conservatives to convince white, rural Christians that federal power threatens their traditions and livelihoods. In particular, the caricature is designed to transmit the idea that the federal government only cares about African-Americans, immigrants, LGBQ, etc.